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I think many people are mistaking the explanation of how our Faith grows and strengthens over time, by the repeated inculcation of Scriptural concepts, with the INITIAL decision to trust God and follow Him. Many people have started their journey with God, having never even read one single word...

Everything and Anything works..... as long as you keep "revising" it whenever it doesn't. LOL

Exactly! We have no business limiting the understanding of Scriptural interpretation to only what we, or our esoteric group, has determined it HAS to be.

Enoch111, If we all have to believe any part of the Bible means only ONE thing, why are some of us "going into all the world" (actually traveling to the deepest, darkest parts of Africa, for instance) and others of us are sitting at home, playing on a computer? The Bible never said to just...

As I quite clearly said in the "book" I just wrote (or was that a POST? Oh, just pretend it was a "book". That carries more weight.), I think we may just find out one day that the words you just quoted were not the same words John wrote in his LETTER to those seven churches. that the changing...

God help you two when you stand before Him and attempt to explain what you are trying to do here. Thankfully He is merciful to everyone.

John 6:44 seems to be ignored by our verse quoters. LOL

SG, you might want to do some more reading. The Bible says that we come because of God drawing us. Unless you are a mind reader, I'd say you were out on a bit of a limb in claiming you know what was going on with Jennifer.

Absolutely! And there is no way to wiggle around that straight fact.

Interestingly enough, the "book" of Revelation was not a book when it left Patmos. The words written therein clearly tell us that it was a letter, AND those words also tells us exactly to whom it was written. I highly suspect that someone ADDED "THOSE" words to John's original letter long...

Not "assigning" it, just observing it.

I'm calling no one names. You actually do exhibit a lot Pharisaism. If you doubt this, just ask an open question of the members here, and listen to what they have seen in your treatment of others, especially Jennifer. As I said before, a black belt picking on a white belt is nothing to be...

Jennifer said: "I know the truth naturally sometimes" Ignore him. That is just the Pharisee in him coming out. He can't help it. He is pretty hung-up on "Biblical terminology" and can't see when a person uses normal terms. If he weren't blinded by that flaw, he would have read something...

Many people who claim "preacher" as their profession, don't appear to care a whit (iota) about helping others. It seems all they want is for others to listen to their speeches, and to accept what they decide to tell them.

Yes, unfortunately, even people who preach in pulpits sometimes mistake who the real enemy is, and end up seeing other fellow Christians as their foes who have to be bullied and coerced into bowing to the blasting of Biblical Scriptures they beat them with. Its a failing even the Pharisees also...

BTW, never get yourself warped out of shape over someone saying you are not being "Scriptural." Usually, that only means you are not reading a certain Bible passage the way they think it should be read. Not always, but more times than not.

As probably the most, initially, formally uneducated person on this forum, I am also likely the most emphatic of everyone here on using proper grammar, and in taking the time and effort to compose legible and understandable sentences and paragraphs. I quit school the day I turned 17, but I came...

And what is the reason we would not just simply say, in a kinder, gentler way, those things you said it means? You already know the answer. We want to use the "justifiable" dig that we can hide behind as "not really" being a dig.

S U R E it does — if your intent is to hurtfully slam someone.

99 out of a hundred do.