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Ask Lord Jesus that question and He may show you. Rev 13:4-9 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, "Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?" 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and...

Do you believe man's Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine? The Hyper-Grace crowd teaches against God's Word when it speaks of a believer on Christ that later falls away. If their soul was 'quickened', i.e., made immortal when they first believed on Jesus, then how is it that God's Word speaks of...

Yeah, still future, on the 'last day' of this present world... John 6:44 44 No man can come to Me, except the Father Which hath sent Me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. KJV

Which of course none... of that negates the Biblical fact that Lord Jesus' coming is about His return to earth WITH His gathered Church, to the Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem, ON EARTH.

Of course my point is that ecumenicalism is indeed... being used to prepare for the coming false-Messiah to proclaim himself as God over the whole earth. So what is more of a threat to brethren in Christ, ecumenicalism, or the actual false-Messiah that is coming to play God? Per Paul in 2...

Apostle Paul covered that in the 2 Thess.2:4 verse if... you would read it as written. 2 Thess 2:4 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. KJV

And your slanderous statements against me are not?

Excellent, someone who actually read... those Bible Scriptures instead of heeding men's doctrines. :gd

Here is what Apostle Paul actually taught as written in that 2 Thessalonians 2 Chapter, and it ain't about Church attendance or going back to a life of sin... 2 Thess 2:1-12 2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him, 2 That ye...

And yet another... childish answer by you. You are already in Satan's hand having been deceived by the doctrines of men you listen to, and you don't even know it. Repent, and study your Bible and not what men say.

Well, until you learn to pay attention in reading God's written Word, you have no business trying to teach it.

No, you have been taught to wrongly interpret Apostle Paul's idea of 'falling away' in 2 Thess.2. Paul associated the falling away of 2 Thess.2:3 with the event of 2 Thess.2:4, so what is that 4th verse about? It's about the DECEPTION of the coming false-Messiah playing God in a stone temple...

Nah, that's extremism. Haven't you Hyper-Grace folks had parents that raised you? When you messed up, what did your parents do to correct you? Throw you out in the street and disown you? That's how silly your comparison is, and is childishness.

You are in CONFUSION. I am not a FUTURIST. I am only repeating what God's actual 'written' Word teaches, which apparently with this topic you do not know what God's Word says about it. You instead keep man's... agenda, and not Christ's about this matter who said His coming to gather His saints...

Paul's "mystery" there in 1 Cor.15:51, God's Word reveals to us. We just have to listen to God's Word, and not man's. Per Hebrews 4:12 God created us each with 3 parts, a flesh body, a spirit and a soul. Per Matthew 10:28, Jesus revealed that our soul is a separate object from our flesh when He...

That is man's system of theory called PRETERISM folks. They try to throw the coming events for the end that Lord Jesus and His Apostles warned us about, like the "great tribulation", back in past history, showing how DECEIVED they are. Those on the other thread 'trying' to support man's false...

You folks on MAN'S FALSE HYPER-GRACE THEORIES, keep adding your names at the bottom of each other's posts so we know who you are. We got 3 followers of that theory from men's doctrines here on this thread already.

It is impossible to get through to you; those "five foolish virgins" are not antichrists. Nor are those of Matthew 7 that Jesus will turn away. Man's FALSE HYPER-GRACE THEORIES is what has taught you that any believer that 'falls away' is an antichrist, which is NOT BIBLICAL.

No, you are only interpreting that 1 John 2 Scripture according to the Hyper-Grace movement. The "many antichrists" Apostle John mentioned represent the "tares" in Christ's parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew 13. Now those "tares" were... sown by the devil like Jesus said there in Matthew...

Sorry to say it, but that means you don't really understand New Testament Scripture about the science of our created makeup, nor how it applies to Paul's change at the twinkling of an eye he mentioned in 1 Cor.15.