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But the DO SAY that the Christian WILL Persevere ... so you draw the whatever conclusion you think appropriate.

Mess with the bull, and you get the horns. ;) Yes they do, and we will see that as we go through them ... An interesting OPINION, but without scripture to back it up, it is just an opinion. That is exactly what I claimed because that is exactly what the verse states. GOD will finish the work...

If you really want in this conversation, here is the exchange so you can read it for yourself: Post 13 Believers need to understand the Truth Post 14 Believers need to understand the Truth Post 17 Believers need to understand the Truth Post 19 Believers need to understand the Truth Post 20...

How does that “reconcile” all of God’s promises that you claim are abrogated? You presented no verses at all, let alone reconciling apparently contradictory verses. That was rather disappointing.

I say ... [John 10:27 NASB] 27 "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; [Matthew 7:21-23 NASB] 21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven [will enter.] 22 "Many will say to Me on...

I wouldn’t know. I never attended a seminary. I went to a Community College for an AA in Liberal Arts and Computer Science and to a University for a Bachelor of Architecture (B.Arch). Most of my “Bible training” came from an African missionary to the United States at the Church of God who...

Not MY contradiction. I didn’t write the Bible. I guess that you will just need to discard the Word of God and write your own, since YOU are the one claiming all God’s contradictions. :cool:

Jesus knows the heart of all men. Jesus will not trust himself to the heart of men. Yup, what could that POSSIBLY prove about the heart of men. :rolleyes:

Come on ... is Adam a “son of men”? Was Adam born to a man and a woman?

Conceived ... Your parents should have explained this to you, but when a man and a woman are in love and get married, something magical happens. They get really close and the man places his “seed” into the womb of the woman where it joins with an “egg” in the woman’s womb. This union grows...

Sure, because they had complete free will. They had neither the indwelling of the Holy Spirit to guide them in righteousness nor the “sin nature” that resulted from the curse on Adam. Good is not Perfect. Only Christ was born Perfect without a “sin nature” and with the “Holy Spirit” guidance...

Ok, have at it. So far you have just told me that God didn't really mean what he said in the verses that I quoted and God is impotent without our consent. (God just tries really hard to convince us to accept Him.)

Well, if you say so, then let me just get my sharpie and cross out all of those verses that I quoted ... because they must not be true. :rolleyes: Sorry chief, I'll stick with scripture over your OPINIONS. :)

The answer is "Of course not." A Christian will not remain impenitent, and one who remains impenitent was not a Christian. However, all Christians will Persevere until the end because ... [Romans 8:29-30 NASB] 29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined [to become] conformed to the...

Oooh Oooh, can I answer? :) YES! Loving God with all your might (reader’s digest version) and loving your neighbor is the “heart and soul” of God’s MORAL LAW. It is commanded of us and we are expected to strive towards it. The Fruit of the Spirit is the Two Greatest Commandments being lived...

Agreed ... and James keeps us from just sitting on our keisters.

[Mat 5:22 NASB] 22 "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty [enough to go] into the fiery hell...

Our cooperation is CRITICALLY important as God TRIES to sanctify us? REALLY? [Philippians 1:6] For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus. [Philippians 2:13] for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to...

BEFORE: [Gen 1:26-31] Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." God created man in His own...

Right chapter, wrong verse. That is AFTER we are His sheep. Romans 5:6-11 6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. 8 But God demonstrates His...