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  1. Wrangler

    Christians are dangerous?

    Another vid on point
  2. Wrangler

    Trump and Politics

    So says his deranged enemies. He said he portrayed himself as a doctor healing people. I find i5 funny how the media react to all his antics, showing how he plays them like a fiddle. They can’t help being offended by everything he does. It’s comical, a great fringe benefit of a Trump...
  3. Wrangler

    Christians are dangerous?

    I recommend No More Christian Nice Guy: When Being Nice--Instead of Good--Hurts Men, Women, and Children Paperback – July 5, 2016 by Paul Coughlin...
  4. Wrangler

    Is it ok for parents to use corporal punishment to discipline their children?

    I don’t believe you for one second. I noticed none of your rationalizations quote Scripture.
  5. Wrangler

    Is it ok for parents to use corporal punishment to discipline their children?

    This is you verse to support it is the parents failure when corporal punishment is needed!! LOL
  6. Wrangler

    Is it ok for parents to use corporal punishment to discipline their children?

    What Bible verse says that? And by extension, coercive force in society is a failure of government, words should do. Since words aren't enough for adults, how can we expect them to be enough for children, younger than the age of reason?
  7. Wrangler

    Is it ok for parents to use corporal punishment to discipline their children?

    You might be talking about a small application of the use of force. I'm not willing to pick and choose its righteousness in the name of "sticking to the subject." And I think you know what I'm talking about.
  8. Wrangler

    Is it ok for parents to use corporal punishment to discipline their children?

    True but one thing is not the other thing. And you can go out of bounds with anything. Exceptions don't make rules. For cops safety, should we allow pull overs? Some violent criminals take it too far ...
  9. Wrangler

    Is it ok for parents to use corporal punishment to discipline their children?

    Nope. Not different at all one little bit. We embrace as a society the use of physical force or not. Military and police are known for causing serious injury. Why exclude them from the analysis? And why focus only on children being the recipients of corporal punishment? Only difference is who...
  10. Wrangler

    Is it ok for parents to use corporal punishment to discipline their children?

    This is what I was referring to. The whole idea of punishing children is in getting them to submit to parental authority. So, if Corporal punishment is done independent of this alignment, then yes. Otherwise no. Let me give an example of a bad punishment, useless work. One story is the mother...
  11. Wrangler

    Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

    One would not know that Jesus followers follow a Jew by many post in this thread!
  12. Wrangler

    Haitian illegal murders mother with a hammer in Florida

    The @quietthinker s of the world have NO sympathy for innocent Americans killed by illegals.
  13. Wrangler

    Is it ok for parents to use corporal punishment to discipline their children?

    This Karen was undoubtedly raised where there was no corporal punishment! She was raised to use her voice when she sees something wrong. Women and children has NO BUSINESS approaching an armed man acting violently! Men should always be respected, PERIOD. If nothing else, women and children...
  14. Wrangler

    Is it ok for parents to use corporal punishment to discipline their children?

    No compelling evidence supports this claim. It’s just a feminized “nice” virtue signaling claim. Because women cannot compete on the violent arena, feminists want to deny it as it offends their delicate sensibilities. If the premise were correct, these same countries would abolish their own...
  15. Wrangler

    Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

    You do know the term “first fruit” doesn’t exclusively apply to one person, right? According to AI, This phenomenon is called pareidolia. It's a psychological tendency where the human brain perceives meaningful patterns, images, or shapes in random or ambiguous visual (or auditory) stimuli...
  16. Wrangler

    Haitian illegal murders mother with a hammer in Florida

    As is your term convenient of "refugees" who invade against our will. :mad: If only the Nazi's called themselves refugees as they invaded Russia.
  17. Wrangler

    A Real War Or A Spiritual War - the Second Woe of Revelation

    With all due respect, your dichotomy is false. All real wars are also spiritual wars. Not sure what your use of the word "real" and "literal" are in comparison to, fake or pretend? The foundation of the text is "certain people taking over this world," which is a real and literal take over. The...
  18. Wrangler

    Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

    The discussion has been about Romans 11, not Mattew 24. The movement from Romans 11!
  19. Wrangler

    Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

    Not quite @Lizbeth The NSRV states at verse 28 that they are enemies for the sake of us Gentiles. What translation are you reading? No. The NSRV has a very long study note on this point. My physical roots are Italian, Irish, Portugese and French. The metaphor is about the people one's...
  20. Wrangler

    Haitian illegal murders mother with a hammer in Florida

    The UN is impotent. Worse, they are corrupt. One example is emitting 100's of tons of carbon in the atmosphere from private jets and large entourages to have luxurious workshops on the horrors of Global Warming. Another example is UNRWA, which funds terrorist groups under the name of refugees...