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Sure but Jesus did put an and to the 1500 year old covenant age didn't He?

But wouldn't of Polycarp of been raptured also?

Thanks but I was addressing Matthew who said that all saints alive went to heaven in 70AD

I'm talking about the temple and sacrificial age

No definitely not we only need the bible its just the fact that Polycarp was a saved disciple of Jesus so why was he still around to teach Irenaeus. I believe that Revelation is about 70AD thus it was written before 70AD

No problem that's what this forum is for. I myself believe in the PP and amill. I believe that our world as we know it will end because of chapters like revelation 20. Some will say why would the world end if more people will get saved after but I don't believe any will. I believe that...

Yes I agree that verse 28 is the coming in judgement

We do agree on that it was the end of the mosaic age. The kingdom is spiritual so that will never end.

Johns whole gospel was about proving that Jesus was sent by the Father and Jesus revealing the Fathers heart to us that all we need to know to see the truth.

Once again I believe that He came in judgement that's what I believe the Olivet Discourse and the book of Revelation is about. I believe that He will physically return at the end of our world as shown below. Matthew 25 31 “But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels...

Or Jesus came back symbolically in judgement like in the verse below and He will come back a second time literally Revelation 2 16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. I'm glad that we agree on the dating of revelation

The pharisees were faithless and Jesus told them that they would see Him? Obviously its symbolic for knowing that He is God. Matthew 26 64 “You have said so,” Jesus replied. “But I say to all of you: From now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming...

He was recorded dying in his 90's I also believe that Revelation was written before 70AD

Sorry but how does that explain John being alive after 70AD? It also says every eye thus that would include nonbelievers. Could it also mean that people will see Him mean that they would know that Jesus was God because what He said would happen happened when He said it would happen? Matthew...

The church left the city right before the destruction of the city and John was still alive after 70AD so how could the church be raptured.

No worries, Randy LOL thanks. Yes, the discourse was given before an international church, but the international church was in existence in 70AD. The problem with Israel is that they didn't realize that the Messiah was also their God He was the one who would save them that's a big reason that...

How was all of the bride raptured when the saints like John were still on the earth afterwards? How was left to spread the message?

Jesus did save the saints when He came, He saved us all spiritually Also all of the Christians did heed Jesus warning in the Olivet Discourse and left Jerusalem just before it was destroyed.

I was saying that Matthew, Mark and Luke recorded the Olivet Discourse in their gospels and neither of them were present when Jesus gave it. John was present but he didn't record it in his gospel. It wasn't the actual second coming of Jesus it was the coming in judgment by Jesus in 70AD. But...

At the time they probably didn't fully under that Jesus was talking about His coming in judgement not the actual second coming. Thats why Jesus was explaining it to them it was the end of the temple and sacrificial age.