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  1. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    Again. Cost of executing someone. Cost of a system. Not the same. The capital punishment system to AVOID capital punishment is corrupt. See the OP referencing the Prison Industrial Complex.
  2. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    I am fully aware of the corrupt PROCESS in an attempt to AVOID capital punishment. I simply reject the claim that avoidance cost is the cost of executing someone. A debate maxim is that if you accept the terms of your opponent, you’ve already lost the argument. So, I reject the implied premise...
  3. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    I‘m differentiating from the cost of capital punishment from the prohibitive PROCESS we’ve chosen to AVOID capital punishment.
  4. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    Really, all that is a rationalization, a corruption in the cost analysis. We are speaking different languages. I’m talking about the cost of capital punishment. You are quoting the cost of ‘death row.’ Not the same.
  5. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    No, it’s not as the OP explained. You think a bullet costs more than housing someone in security for 50 years? Bless your heart. It’s pure propaganda by the Prison Industrial Complex to claim killing someone is more expensive than housing them for decades.
  6. Wrangler

    Do you guys support Trump's war on Iran right now?

    This proves NATO alliance no longer exists in practice. I pray Trump gets out of such entangling alliances. They want help with Ukraine but can't help us with Iran? https://www.newsmax.com/
  7. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    You must know this is untrue. See the OP.
  8. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    It's not about guaranteeing anything. We do the best we can and there is more justice now than in Jesus' day. One measure of this is wealth generation. Used to be wealth was thought in terms of resources. More people = strain on resources. However, people are the wealth. More people = more...
  9. Wrangler

    Do you guys support Trump's war on Iran right now?

    Nope. Iran has been killing Americans for decades. See USS Cole. See Marine barracks in Beirut. What good is the NATO alliance if they don't honor their commitment to help when we're attacked?
  10. Wrangler

    Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

    @Christian Soldier, I haven't been following this thread closely but I want you to consider something. Another poster asked where all this animosity is coming from and now I am asking that as well. @Aunty Jane doesn't have main stream beliefs but what she does have is courtesy in her speech and...
  11. Wrangler

    UK Sikh restaurant owner arrested after sign said he wouldn't serve Halal...more craziness in the UK

    What was he arrested for? Really, many of these threads of yours could be combined into one with the heading, "More Evidence Great Britain Fell to Islam." :confused
  12. Wrangler

    God is against Israel and the US lapdog

    It's almost like you don't want to name those evil terrorists who killed innocent Israeli's on Oct 7. You have no credibility.
  13. Wrangler

    God is against Israel and the US lapdog

    So, Hamas is evil due to their attack on Israeli innocents on Oct 7?
  14. Wrangler

    God is against Israel and the US lapdog

    Name those terrorists who attacked on Oct 7.
  15. Wrangler

    God is against Israel and the US lapdog

    That is the Leftist narrative.
  16. Wrangler

    God is against Israel and the US lapdog

    And who is to be condemned for this evil Of killing children? Certainly not the Islamic Jihadi terrorists when did it! Right?!
  17. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    No. I’ve already elaborated. If you don’t understand, then you don’t understand. You need to explain. God commanded sinners of Israel to kill those who broke the law. this was NOT construed as murder. How do you explain calling it murder back then? It’s just like the history of the Crusades...
  18. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    I oppose the death penalty. See OP.
  19. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    Not one little bit is this true. Jesus was talking about her case, not capital punishment, generally. The Cultural Study Bible NSRV elaborates on the trap set for Jesus. To condemn one of adultery, both participates had to be included. Where was the man? She was supposedly caught in the act...