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Therefore, don't make statements like this: 'there is a well documented silent war going on for control of these publications, like, people have died even', when you can't back it up with documented evidence. You may have heard it somewhere at some time, but that's not objective evidence. Oz

bby, When you make statements like this, I consider that you ought to provide a link that documents your statements. Oz

BoL, Your view of Wikipedia is not convincing to me. I'm presently writing a curriculum for religious instruction in secular high schools, so I emailed leading evangelical theologian and apologist, Dr Norman Geisler, for an outline of the apologetic model he uses. What did he do? He referred...

Mary, your statement in #954 was, 'Or they just don't know how to properly interpret scripture like YOU DO?'. That's sarcasm at its best! Oz

Mary, Your sarcasm is totally unwarranted and is a detriment to our conversation. Would you please direct me to 'the men of current Protestant Churches [who] didn't use Scripture to support Mary's perpetual virginity? Tell me about current, evangelical Christian leaders who support Mary's...

kepha, That is false. Protestants have not 'universally taught' the perpetual virginity. That's your misunderstanding. There were some early and prominent Reformers, who came out of the RCC, who continued to teach perpetual virginity as they had not dealt with all of the RCC doctrines that...

False! I hold to a biblical position and have tried to demonstrate it throughout this thread. In addition, my article, Perpetual virginity of Mary promoted by false document, deals with the biblical and other material. I do not hold to the Protestant Tradition of Luther, Calvin, Zwingli & John...

Mary, Your support of perpetual virginity because 'Christianity HAS been teaching Mary's perpetual virginity for 2,000 years', is an Appeal to Tradition Fallacy. The logical form of the fallacy you committed is: Christianity has been supporting the perpetual virginity of Mary for...

Straw man and inflammatory post.

When you don't back quote, I don't know to whom you reply. Please extend to us the courtesy of back quoting so we can connect your post with the poster to whom you reply. You said nowhere in your post that you were responding to twinc. By the way, one of the opportunities of blogging on a...

You add to Scripture when you conclude that Jesus' brothers and sisters did not come from Mary's womb. Nowhere in the NT can I find that info. It was expected of the normal Hebrew couple who were married would consummate their marriage and have children. Why should it be different for Mary and...

And I also reject Calvin's teaching on double predestination, irresistible grace, and infant baptism.

This has been shown to you to be untrue. But you're not listening. Oz

BoL, Does this one church include Protestants? Place don't overlook the fact that there are quite a few denominations/movements within the RCC. There are more denominations in Protestantism than RCC, but please don't blame the Protestants alone as a source of denominations. 'there are...

BoL, When you write about His Church and The Church, are you referring to the Body of Christ or do you refer to the Roman Catholic Church? Oz

And that response is a red herring.

Mary could you please back quote so that I know to which post you refer?

A perpetual virgin can't have other brothers for Jesus. '"Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?' (Matt 13:55 NIV). Here these 4 males are called 'his brothers' and the context includes 'his mother's name Mary'. Oz

bb, Do you have Scripture to support that statement? It was normal for a Jewish married couple to have children (plural): There has been much discussion in recent years among rabbinic authorities on the rights and wrongs of birth control. Almost all of the legal discussions on the subject...

101, That's a red herring. I refuted your view at #305 and I will not be repeating the nature of the teaching on the Trinity. You are accusing me of being a liar. I object strongly to this pejorative and false labelling of my character. By the way, please learn the difference between 'your' and...