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OK. Now we are getting somewhere. You say you are crucified. How do you know you are crucified? Because you read it in the bible and think you need to say it and that makes it real? OR...you are dead to sin and walk like a shell of a man in utter weakness so that people think you might be sick...

OK You are able to post a cogent argument after all. :) I agree. I posted a letter from Luther earlier that shows that he in no way thought that sin could be conquered while in the mortal body. That's not giving Gd much credit for what His grace can do. Grace is the power that overcomes sin...

I feel the thread has taken too many twists and turns, so I'm reposting a part of the OP for discussion as follows... So we, in our estimation, need to see our default setting as considering sin, and the lifestyle associated with it, as being dead to us. Does that mean we can claim to be...

Back for a religious ego boost I see. Can you stop the pontificating long enough to address the subject of this thread? What does reckoning oneself to be dead to sin entail? Is that the final step in Christian growth....reckoning? Or is there more to it as Paul continues into Romans 7 and 8...

everybody says that as they split into thousands of factions. The issue is to lay out one's interpretation and WHY that is so. That's using common sense...or "plain" sense. Everything else is vain religion. Which spirit? Certainly not the Holy Spirit. Then you are deluded, my friend...and...

You are taking things too literally. The bible is not in the eternal realm. But the spiritual war is. You will need a means to take what the bible is saying...and with faith and God's grace...move INTO that realm to do battle there with His word... a living word. Not just words on a page...

But backwards. Are you joining the backward interpretation club? I'm exposing the flesh...not defending it. Remember, if you don't see how your outer man is trying to stifle the life in the inner man...then iniquity is at the door...trying to get in.

Amazing how you always speak about what you are doing. I opened this thread to discuss a bible verse...and accompanying bible reference..and what you have served up is a personal attack and slander for me not believing everything you say about yourself. You are not allowing others the freedom to...

Is God only found by opening a bible? Does walking in the Spirit necessitate having your nose in an open bible so as not to notice the traffic you are walking in? The bible points to God and is good for instruction in righteousness. But the connection is to be taken directly into His...

The question is what is it saying to you. How are you interpreting the passage. What is the process in thinking that what you think is actually true...for you. I have said many times that being crucified and raised again to resurrection life is by a WHOLE measure of grace that very few will...

All I see is people trying to hide behind bible words...a smokescreen, as you say (again the backwards reasoning). Anybody can read a verse and then say...I stand on that. THAT verse is FOR ME. But you can never ask them what THEY mean by that. No, they believe they are as pure as the word of...

How so? Please explain. I can't find the rest of your post.

I'm cuing on what you said earlier. You are over-estimating what being born again accomplishes in regards to the death and resurrection of the saint. You are taking a down-payment...to be the full payment. I suggest reading the parables of the kingdom again. The cost of entering into...

Well thanks for that. But you have been so religiously indoctrinated that you will resist any kind of truth. A man-made institution benefits by getting as many as possible to fill the pews. The public can be VERY gullible when the speaker is talented and draws in the crowd with lofty sounding...

Would that be 2,000 years ago? :hmhehm

Hurling accusations is NOT participating in the discussion. Stay on topic. Maybe explain what it is that causes you to react? :backtop:

What we see in Romans 6 through 8 is a progression...from an initial experience of grace that changes a person forever to a surrendered walk in the full measure of grace over sin, the devil and the world. That initial sample will seem, at first, to be the whole package....until one realizes that...

Anytime the gospel is laid out on any topic, there is will be an inevitable reference to a deeper understanding that just isn't there for most people. So then the nursery begins to fill with tantrums and accusations and self-righteous statements to cover the superficiality of the grasp of the...

The confusion comes in when you try to synthesize a doctrine or an understanding based on the bible while still walking in the power of the flesh.

You need to have a convo with the person here who hasn't sinned for 2,000 years... :rolleyes: