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The fantasy came when his mind broke and he became a Protestant! :rolleyes: Throwing grace around like it was confetti. A fate much worse than death awaits someone like that.

I'm inferring into your response as I see you inferring into the bible verses. Are you saying that we can eventually die once to sin??? The reading skill issue is in the "once." That idea is that a sinner NEVER goes back to sin...not even once...NEVER. Just like Jesus who knew no sin EVER dies...

It's like the religious Trump supporters. Oh, he's a man of God, that cheats lies and swindles..sure. But God uses imperfect people...downright sinners...to accomplish the purity of His designs...and such. The same goes for Luther. An OBVIOUS renegade monk....but who strikes a chord in the...

You presented this verse... “Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more (Jesus); death hath no more dominion over him(Jesus). For in that he died, he died unto sin once (Jesus): but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God (Jesus).” (Romans 6:9-10) Then you said... We die unto...

This thread is NOT ABOUT YOU. I don't care what you have a religious bent for. I thought you were going away... :backtop:

I always hate to bring up the reading skills issue...but I answered you...that you read the verse wrong. Do you see that? or do you choose to change the meaning of the words to fit your ideas??? Are you doubling down on a misreading here? Go back and look at the verse you posted. And go from...

Jesus died unto sin once...not us. Read it again...with feeling. :hmhehm

The question is...HOW is that accomplished? And all Protestants follow Luther...otherwise they wouldn't be Protestant. I think that people can't be honest about what they really believe. They avoid the truth because it makes them sound...like Luther ...who is the church father of ALL...

All the trolling silliness takes away from any discussion about things that are important to both convey and understand. So what does it mean to reckon ourselves dead to sin? Do we have an innate power to reckon our sins away? Do we need to go to the throne of grace to receive heavenly power...

Thanks for your religious posturing...now please go away. :threadsneeker:

I rebuke you. Go away and learn how to behave. Start a thread on how to pontificate and deliver diatribes..so I can ignore it. be creative. :backtop:

Stay on topic and refrain from your slanderous tirades. :backtop:

yeah, I thought so... :rolleyes:

Most people here agree with Luther.., they are called Protestants. Because you don't understand spiritual things you are mischaracterizing what I say...because you haven't learned to actually have a conversation...just a holier than thou pontificating. You are stuck. But you can learn...

A lot of needless smoke and mirrors there Mark. I'm asking you what you think it means. If you don't know then say so... I know the bible speaks the truth. I don't think very many people actually know what Paul is talking about. So how is sin removed?

I don't know why you think I never read the bible before. But I ask you again... How is sin removed? Is it the penalty for sin that is removed? Or does crucifixion kill ALL sin with its power....to make one pure and without sin? In Him is NO sin. Do you claim that your reckoning extends to...

Are you saying that the fish you are holding is not a photo-shopped minnow? I am very careful to investigate...using scepticism...until God shows me what something means. Whether by visitation, vision...I'm careful to say only in what I KNOW to be true others here use a religious speculation...

I noticed you said..."sin is removed"...could you explain how that is accomplished? I know EG says that the penalty for sin is paid. That follows Luther. Are you saying something different?

There is literally no end to religious presumptions and assumptions.

You are no longer Protestant? Most here would think that I finally understood the gospel...according to Luther, that is. Doesn't grace abound in order to cover your abundant sin? Please explain how your view has changed.