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  1. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    I am not trying to be obstinate or offensive Tony but I don't see the "answer". What I clearly see is you putting a mathematical equation on the 2,000-year teaching of Mary's Perpetual Virginity AND the validity of The Shroud of Turin. You even admit it yourself: Luckily, there is a...
  2. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    Where is the evidence for this allegation? I know, I know, all the evidence for your allegation was destroyed so you can't back up what you say. You and @dev553344 crack me up. All the evidence we could provide has been destroyed but we have no evidence that that evidence was destroyed and we...
  3. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    Eg.....You have me sooooo confused I don't know what else there is to say. When YOU SAY that you will not blindly follow anyone AND we are talking about submitting to the elders of The Church and then you to act like there is no equation between 'anyone' and 'elders' so that you can prove me...
  4. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    Ok....I will change my question: You are turning a 2,000-year teaching of The Church into a mathematical equation AND gambling with money. Why?
  5. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    WIKIPEDIA is your source to prove me wrong!! :jest::Happy::Laughingoutloud::joyful::Happy::jest::Laughingoutloud::jest::Happy::joyful::jest::goodn: 2 days later: I've stopped laughing now. Let's talk Dev!coffee: First off, WHY would you use Wikipedia as your source for a teaching of The...
  6. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    I don't know what you mean by am I "willing to bet". Here is what I am willing to do. I am willing to repeat the truth of Scripture and Christian history in regard to the teaching that Mary, the Mother of God, was a perpetual virgin. You are turning a 2,000-year teaching of The Church into a...
  7. Marymog

    Catholic Preist Sings Song About Lucifer

    You are conflating two different conversations. You asked for lies that EGW was telling. You said put up or shut up. I and @Illuminator listed the lies of EGW....I then used YOUR OWN WORDS and said are you going to shut up (now that the lies of EGW have been listed). THAT conversation has...
  8. Marymog

    Catholic Preist Sings Song About Lucifer

    You are conflating two different conversations Rella. You asked for lies that EGW was telling. You said put up or shut up. I and @Illuminator listed the lies of EGW....I then used YOUR OWN WORDS and asked are you going to shut up (now that the lies of EGW have been listed). THAT conversation...
  9. Marymog

    Catholic Preist Sings Song About Lucifer

    Got it....Stop believing every word that proceeds from the mouth of David in NJ! :vgood: Dear DEAR David, Can you not see how silly your above statement is? @BreadOfLife @Illuminator and I DO believe every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God! But when we tell you that what we believe is...
  10. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    Nope. Not a deflection. You are accusing me of telling you to blindly follow the elders of your church. I NEVER told you that. If I have, please provide the quote or post # I said that in. Patient Mary
  11. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    Nope. It's part of your Christian history. But you ignore Christian history because it doesn't fit what YOU have been taught.
  12. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    I already answered your question in post #102. Here is my answer AGAIN: I NEVER told you to blindly follow your elders! I quoted Scripture.
  13. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    That is true. You have never flat out said that you were right. You have STRONGLY implied it thought. Here is what you have said: You equated a commandment in a personal letter from Paul to Timothy as a commandment to you: Be diligent to present yourself (EG) approved to God, a worker who does...
  14. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    I did ignore you. Because you are accusing me of something that didn't happen. How can I address something that didn't happen?????? :contemplate: I NEVER told you to blindly follow your elders! I quoted Scripture. I get it EG!! You will not adhere to the parts of Scripture that you don't...
  15. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    I know....that is why YOU will always be right and everyone else will ALWAYS be wrong.
  16. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    Ok...you are right. That letter to Timothy was meant for YOU. ;) No, we are not to blindly follow men. Read the passages from Scripture that I quoted. I never said and Scripture never says, "blindly follow men". It does say men twist Scripture to their own destruction. I get it EG. You have...
  17. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    NOPE....I didn't give you my opinion. I gave you passages from Scripture that put "until" in perspective. I gave you Christian history. I dissected the conversation between Mary and the angel to show how your opinion does not match up with Scripture. I hit you with 3 FACTS that you have yet to...
  18. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    Let's be honest with each other EG. You don't listen to anyone but yourself!! If you want to throw away passages from Scripture that don't fit what you believe, then that is on YOU. I don't recommend you do it....but hey, to each their own!
  19. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    2Timothy is a pastoral letter from Paul to his student, Timothy. Now that I have taught you that FACT here is what that passage would look like IN CONTEXT in modern form: Dear Timothy my son. Be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. 2 And the things that you have heard from me among...
  20. Marymog

    If you think Mary remained a virgin till she died, then bet on it

    Dear EG, Yes, I can say that you didn't prove your point. Your Protestant teaching has been debunked and you are regurgitating a 500-year-old teaching. It's nothing new. Scripture’s statement that Joseph “knew [Mary] not until she brought forth her firstborn” would not necessarily mean they...