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What He preached was about how the born again will behave. And Jesus remained sinless throughout His life and all He said, He said while sinless. How God views sin was revealed in the Old Testament. Numbers 15:22-29, 30-36 about - Willful and unintentional sins. But the Jews had to memorize all...

What is not in there? 14 “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Matthew 6:14-15

The way you wrote your post was not taking any responsibility for forgiving others; just that God forgives you.

Do you forgive others their trespasses against you? Are you mad at anyone?

I understand trespasses differently than you seem to. Murder is against God's Ten Commandments. That is lawlessness, and a sin UNTO DEATH. A trespass is committed against one another because of immature fruit of the Spirit and is a sin NOT UNTO DEATH. And yes, we must forgive others their...

How? Sorry I was away so long and it took me so long to answer. And now I'm going to bed. Good night.

And what do you think it says to you? I've already told you what it says to me.

So how are you going to "purify yourself" based on the as is?

Let's not argue. I KNOW that you read verses as is, and YOU KNOW that I always read in context. We are simply stating what we see based on your "as is" and my "in context.

Shorten this before I'll read it. What is the main point you are saying that goes along with your title.

I take all scripture in context as you know I do. None of us can make ourselves righteous without God being in us, so we cannot purify ourselves without already being pure. All we can do is not quench the Spirit, and remain pure.

Sorry, I thought by this that "you would do the "other" meaning "opposite. LOL I see what you mean now. I believe as I already said. We will do according to our new re-born nature and keep pure.

There ARE false doctrines in some denominations that do claim what you left the mind to interpret; that obedience is a "work" and is not grace; that grace covers all sin. That is why I asked you to watch what you say.

Right, but the just will live up the the level of faith He has been given by God. We proceed from faith to faith. That is growing in the Spirit. It is not proud to do right.

Doing the opposite is not axiomatic. LOL You were right with just axiomatic, but not doing the other I think purifying yourself once you're already cleansed of all unrighteousness would be doing what would then be natural. And same for keeping ourselves. It would be automatic as part of our own...

There is one thing we can do to NOT "keep" ourselves, and that is to quench the Spirit. So how do we keep ourselves? 1 John 5:18 How do we purify ourselves? 1 John 3:3

The question is who is responsible for the purifying? To sin would be to muddy ourselves, right? Jesus does the purifying, but we obey; that is our responsibility, right? Behold would say to obey is works. Do you? I don't.

without our will? Are you saying it is automatic?

Strange title. Totally inaccurate. Jesus lived his entire life as our example of a born again Christian. How? He was conceived with the seed of the Father. So are we when we are born again. Our sin nature called the old man died with Christ. Romans 6. We are a new creation. Galatians 6. 1...

I know that Christ is the Author and Finisher of our Faith, but I agree with E, that we do hold some responsibility. What does keeps mean in this verse. 1 John 5:18 18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not...