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It's like peeling an onion. The more layers you uncover the more you either want to cry....or laugh it away. :rolleyes:

What does that have to do with Romans 6? If you read it and believe it, then you are already dead to sin. It says so plainly in the text. You just have to believe it. (ask Mark about this) So then if you reckon yourself to be dead as per the bible...then you aren't really sinning, are you...

Being in a religious environment is freaky. Everything that is normal, is seen as not normal. What what is invented and made up....that's the new normal. The unreal is to now be seen as real. The real is now to be seen as not relevant. That has to happen IF one is trying to line up one's ideas...

I think we all have met a godly person sometime in our youth...maybe an angel or two...without realizing it. The bible does say...if we are open to hospitality...that we may have unwittingly entertained angels.

Find the verse you like...now believe it and receive it. Yes indeed.

Let the money roll in.... Just the bible and you....now receive the bible...No need for God's personal intervention. He just wants to bless you and your finances.

I thought we were agreeing here...not using our minds, understanding and wisdom...and how these are just idols.

I'm hoping to get the bike out soon. The weather is improving. What about you? Do you run?

No. He's of the "name it, believe it" group. That's a very different thing. :rolleyes: Keep preachin' it.

Uncanny! How did you know my bible doesn't say that? I don't suppose your bible says. "My People perish for lack of knowledge". I know mine doesn't.

Understanding is overrated. Knowledge isn't required. And wisdom just makes you think your beliefs have no value. Exactly. There's no way we are meant to love God with our minds. :rolleyes:

Read it, believe it...name it, and claim it...and it's yours! Now we just have to convince God... :rolleyes:

Doctrinal clarity is a smokescreen...for understanding truth.

English, and intelligible communication in particular, is highly overrated.

The words are correct. That's all that matters. Just read Romans 6....

The pure doctrine that is according to the truth. I pray you will consider it...and drop the religious posturing. Men are pleased to hear words...but God sees the heart.

Thank you for your kind words Apak.

Nothing. Perhaps I'm hearing Mark's influence here. :rolleyes: No, thank you!

He went from 3/16 holy to 11/32 holy I believe. Quite the accomplishment. An example to us all. Who said sanctification is not a process? Who said that we had to obey ALL the law? Who said that a little leaven leavens the whole batch? Sure the law must be fully obeyed or it doesn't count...but...

They just had a pocket New Testament. If the King James was good enough for them...it should be good enough for us...without that big bulky Old Testament.