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Those who take part in the Christians only rapture/resurrection event. And those who take part in the martyred great tribulation saints resurrected at the early stages of the millennium. keras, many posters have already shown that rapture/resurrection event is before God's wrath is poured out...

No, Daniel 11-36-12:13 is still unfulfilled. As are all the "time of the end" events in the book of Daniel, still unfulfilled. But the time of fulfillment is close. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?q=time+of+the+end&bsec=&order=0&s=1

Daniel 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. Daniel 11:35 is a transition verse to the time of the end. imo, in that transition time, the ones with...

I agree.

I did explain John 5:28-29 in my post #230. Those two verses are referring to the resurrection of the (rest of the) dead for the GWT judgment in Revelation 20:11-14. What you are ignoring is that 1Thessalonians4:15-18 is for Christians only. What happens in 1Thessaonians4:17.... that part I...

The Jews are going by what is in Deuteronomy 30:1-6. 1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee, 2 And shalt...

The rest of the dead, i.e. them who did not take part, in neither the resurrection of the great tribulation martyrs, nor in the rapture/resurrection event - will be resurrected for the GWT judgment in Revelation 20:11-14.

keras, that is not what it says in Revelation 20:11-14.

The resurrection of the dead for the GWT judgment is all of the rest dead - i.e. the unsaved and Christians who did not take part in either the rapture/resurrection event nor in the resurrection of the great tribulation martyrs. The rapture/resurrection event of 1Thesslalonians 4:15-18 is...

I agree. Both the dead in Christ and the living in Christ will be changed to immortality at the time of the rapture/resurrection.

Jay, it is a statue, not a living human being.

You had written that Pagan Rome was the fourth kingdom. And when it ended, you wrote it was succeeded by Papal Rome. So, if Pagan Rome was the fourth kingdom, and ended, and was succeeded by Papal Rome - then why isn't Papal Rome the fifth kingdom ? ---------------------------------- The...

So you are saying you are prideful ?

David, in Daniel 2, there are 5 kingdoms of men. And 1 kingdom of God.

If Pagan Rome (a term you use) ended in 476 AD, and the little horn person, differently, is time of the end - then it is not possible - as 476 AD was not time of the end. The little horn person's identity has yet to be revealed specifically who that person is.

The term "restore" in Daniel 9:25 is in regards to Jerusalem. Not the Jewish people. Daniel 9: 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the...

Christians did not exist at the time the 70 weeks were determined on Daniel's people and Jerusalem in Daniel 9:24.

The three things that will make the temple desolate from the praise and worship of the One True God will be... the presence of the beast king. the presence of the false prophet the presence of the statue image of the beast king - indwelt by Satan.

discuss, a verb that means to talk about a subject with someone and tell each other your ideas or opinions.

Is the Vatican, home of the pope, and Rome - not in the EU ? The latter part of Chapter 11 that deals with the time of the end begins in Daniel 11:36, the king who magnifies himself about every god, in Daniel 11:37 "Neither will he regard the God of his fathers" - i.e. he will be a Jew, not the...