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The sudden destruction that will take place when the day of the Lord begins - is physical. I never said it was not. The destruction that will take place during the great tribulation will be catastrophic. The notion that the world will have, believing that it has entered the messianic...

2 Peter 3:10 is talking about this present earth being completely destroyed. It will happen right before the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 20. Here is the verse... Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven...

Also you and @Spiritual Israelite need to make a time-line chart showing how the events in Revelation fit together with one another for the time frames of... Revelation 11:2 42 months Revelation 11:3 1260 days Revelation 11:9 3 1/2 days Revelation 12:6 1260 days Revelation 12:14 a...

On my time line chart you will see that the day of the Lord has a beginning and continues forever. The destruction of this present earth will take place right before the GWT judgment on the time line chart. Both you and @WPM need to develop your own time line charts, showing your rapture...

You are interacting with an emotional outburst. A time line chart of the timing of the rapture puts everything into perspective with the other time of the end events. At the start of this thread you made three lengthy posts in a row containing many controversial issues - that your view can...

You wrote my chart was distorted. So show your chart of the timing of the rapture. On my chart, I show the rapture timing, relative to the other events of the time of the end. Below this one, my view, is a chart of the pre-trib rapture.

keras, for those of us who believe in the rapture to heaven, we have a known destination - heaven. Where is the destination of the 1Thessalonians4:15-18 event to you. And when ? Before the great tribulation begins ?

Where-ever in the text of the book of Daniel it starts talking about the time of the end - the audience is us. Who the events are about - depends on the context of the text. Those are all said to be time of the end in the text. In Daniel 11-12, the time of the end begins in Daniel 11:36...

Okay, let's see you timeline charts of your view of the rapture timing.

No offense taken. Actually, I compare time of the end parts of Daniel with information found mainly in Matthew 24 (abomination of desolation), 2Thessalonians2 (transgression of desolation), and Revelation. I think Daniel was written for the benefit of whoever reads it. Have you not...

I would look at Daniel 12:4, which give characteristics of the time of the end. 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. So let's look at how people travel around now-a-days in their...

keras, when you present that much material - you need to present timeline charts of the 7 years, showing events, and inter-7 years time frames. Something like this, but with information you are presenting in your interpretation(s).

I think the key is find the places in the bible that have the phrase "time of the end". The 5 instances are all in the book of Daniel. The 'time of the end" is what we are living right now. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?q=time+of+the+end&bsec=&order=0&s=1

No, it does not say that Satan was cast into the bottomless for 1000 years, except in Revelation 20:1-3. Revelation 20:2 is not in any other place in the bible. 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold...

There you go again, getting side tracked. The subject is the 1000 years in Revelation 20. The one thousand years in Revelation 20 is literal because the thousand years have a beginning and an ending. Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his...

The issue is the thousand years in Revelation 20. Don't get side tracked. The one thousand years in Revelation 20 is literal because the thousand years have a beginning and an ending. Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, When a...

I just did a word search for "thousand" in the kjv bible. These are the results... https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?q=thousand

LOL Yeah 2 + 2 = 4 is ridiculous logic to you.

The difference in cattle on "a thousand" hills, and the thousand years in Revelation 20 - is that in Revelation20, there is a beginning and an ending to prove that it is literal - not metaphoric. Just as the 3 1/2 days in Revelation 11 are literal.

The rapture to happen anytime between now and the day that the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation.