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Great point Rocky, I never really researched that before. I figured Jesus gave that to him when he personally chose Paul as one of his apostles.

Yes sir I agree, never really thought about it before, but with the outpouring of holy spirit on the disciples there, the new covenant went into effect, and the old was being phased out. Daniel did say that God would keep the covenant in effect till the end of the week, so a little over 3 more...

Thanks Stred, that is why I am here, do not feel you are imposing.

I think you are thinking more along the line of Mat 24 Scott, those signs were given to his apostles to show when he begins his presence, not his coming which many versions render it. His actual coming is referred to in 1 Thes 4 and 2 Thes 1, and yes everyone will see him sir Rev 1:7 Perhaps not...

We agree on the reason Jesus had to die Ron, I am a bit saddened that you didn't continue in Romans to include 14,15 as it speaks of those who make God's name known to others, which is a requirement for salvation as well. I guess I would have to say, if what you posted was the entire Bible, I...

Yes maam, it is quite observable.

Since Ron stated Jesus was created, but not in the way I thought he was, I asked: So how is he created Ron? I don't think that is too hard to understand, do you Marks? Why would you even ask something like that anyway, I seriously doubt you can answer for Ron, so what is your motivation for...

Let me ask more clearly Jim, do you believe you do not have to do the will of God for salvation, if you are capable? I believe that although those individuals were exemplary in what they did in Jesus name, that Jesus indicated that their not being saved was because basically they ignored God's...

We strove for accuracy with our translation Rob. I personally would like to see it even more accurate, for instance, the NWT changed believes to exercise faith at Jn 3:16, I understand why they did it, but would rather them use what was there, they also at times add torture to stake, which it...

You completely ignored the point Rob, we were discussing inconsistency in translation. Theos/theon is properly translated a god if not used in conjunction with a definite article. Ho theos found in Jn 1:1 was properly translated God earlier in the verse but the translators of your selected...

You are very correct, but that was what he quoted in verse 4. We were discussing verse 10, where was that written Jim? This time however post the verse from a version that translates it without altering God's name, unless of course you believe Jesus would alter the verse he was quoting.

That is Great Ron, and of course Father is not wrong. The Bible has many examples of Jehovah's people calling Him by name, and as we discussed previously calling on His name is a requirement for salvation. Jesus made God's name known, even though those whom he preached to knew it, but Jesus...

Really? How many other Hebrew words do you reject in English sir, I don't recall seeing that before?

True Christians go to Jehovah's mountain for instruction, Isa 2:2,3 He has always gathered His people sir, and that is still a requirement Heb 10:24,25. Are you aware that several of the NT books are letters to congregations Ron? Jehovah's people congregate.

Do you have any Scriptural evidence to support that Be? Yes we agree that those who are born again are anointed while they are alive. Why did you think I didn't think that? I think perhaps the misunderstanding may be because we differ in our understanding of what saved means.

Can I get your explanation of the meaning of Heb 6:4-6 Be? And would you please define what saved is.

Actually Davy, I believe Mat 21:43; Gal 6:16; Rev 5:9,10; and Acts 11:26 are Bible verses sir, but yes we do teach the Bible in our cult.

Jesus came to give his life for all who accept the requirements for life sir Mat 20:28 Jesus promised the thief he would receive a favorable judgment, why? Because of his sincere repentance, and recognizing Jesus for who he was. The verse you quoted about each one in his own order, is referring...

Hence you have the reason I said: Robert Gwin said: Great! So how is he created Ron? Anything else sir?

I will tell you Nancy, of all the comments posted on this thread, yours is infinitely superior, and 100% accurate maam.