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  1. Douggg

    Mecca as Mystery Babylon

    Jay, where are you getting that the kings of the earth will be cast into the bottomless pit ? In Revelation 20:1-3, Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit, but no-one else. Revelation 20::1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in...
  2. Douggg

    Mecca as Mystery Babylon

    The kings of the earth are killed, and their flesh eaten by the birds, at the same time as the beast is cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather...
  3. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    the overspreading of abominations.... abomination of desolation - the statue image of the beast king, placed on the temple mount. Satan indwelling the statue image of the beast-king, i.e. Satan's presence on the temple mount being worshiped (unwittingly, by them who worship the statue image)...
  4. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Why would you refer to yourself as being a pretribber ? "pretribber" is label for persons who believe in a pre-trib (ulation) rapture. But since pre-trib considers the entire 7 year 70th week as "tribulation" - the term pre-trib actually infers pre-70th week rapture. From this website...
  5. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    It has been a pleasure discussing with you, even though we disagree (at present) on a wide range of interpretations and understandings. When you get around to studying Revelation, I think this time line chart I made should help you. Start in the upper left hand corner and follow the red...
  6. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    Your walk through and number of days rationale was too confusing to me. But I mainly don't accept it because... 1. the messiah's ministry is not stated in Daniel 9 as being a factor. 2. the 2300 days are activities associated with the little horn, and not the messiah. 3. the 7 years of...
  7. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    No, the 2300 days are about the activities of the little horn person, including the transgression of desolation, and the sanctuary and the host of the sanctuary (the Jews) to be trodden under foot. Daniel 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which...
  8. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    The abomination of desolation is in the text of Daniel 12:11-12. It not talking about Jesus being crucified. Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days...
  9. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    I don't understand what you mean. The 2300 days in Daniel 8:13-14 are about the activities of the little horn person, not the messiah.
  10. Douggg

    Understanding what is the "Abomination of Desolation".

    Daniel cannot be understood apart from Revelation.
  11. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    What spawned the Olivet Discourse was Matthew 24:3 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? Matthew 24:15, Jesus referred to the...
  12. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    Break down of Daniel 11. verses 2-34 activities future to Daniel, but historic to us. verse 35 transition from historic to the time of the end (our days). verse 36 the beast-king of Revelation, in the middle of the 7 year 70th week. verse 37 the beast-king will be a Jew. verse 38-39 the...
  13. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    The above quote from your post #142. Why are you trying to integrate the 2300 days associated with the little horn person's activities - as being associated with Jesus instead ?
  14. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    What I think is the Matthew 24:15 abomination of desolation standing in a holy place - is the abomination of desolation "set up" in Daniel 12:11, at the time of the end. "set up" is in the text of Daniel 12:11. "standing" because it will be a statue image of the beast-king in a standing...
  15. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    In Matthew 24:15, Jesus said... 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: ) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains...
  16. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    Yes, that is correct because the abomination of desolation was prefigured by what Antiochus IV had done did by placing a statue of Zeus in the temple. Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and...
  17. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    Keep in mind that the daily sacrifice was established as a requirement of the Mt. Sinai covenant between God and the children of Israel. The Gentiles were not part of that covenant. Yes, Jesus's death and resurrection made the daily sacrifice no longer as the means for the Jews to deal with...
  18. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    The abomination of desolation is time of the end, and is Daniel 12:11-12 as being "set up". Daniel 21:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that...
  19. Douggg

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    The SDA view is that the little horn is the papacy, office of the pope. However, the little horn stops the daily sacrifice. Since there have been no daily sacrifices since 70 AD, the pope(s) whether in 500 AD, thereabouts, or not - cannot fit as being the little horn person. There has to be...