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  1. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    You don't know the material. You do not know the things you are saying. It's only "a righteousness of my own", "works", "dung", if it is done in fear: "a righteousness of my own from the Law" (Pp 3:9) is "works of the Law" by which "no flesh will be justified, for by the Law is the knowledge of...
  2. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    Jesus says that someone who is forgiven their sins through Christ's sacrifice can sin in such a way as to have that forgiveness rescinded, so that such a person ends up being thrown in hell. For those who argue salvation can't be lost, or that being born of God can't be undone, tell me: are...
  3. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    You really are missing the point. "Accepted us forever": if that's the case, how is Matthew 18 possible? The guy is forgiven, so he's a believer, born of God, then, bc of his sinful behavior, after being born again, God rescinds the forgiveness, and tosses him into hell. No, your message is...
  4. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Only doers of the Law will be justified on the Day of Judgment (Ro 2:6-16)--those who walk after the Spirit fulfill the Law (Ro 8:4)
  5. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Nope, if it were selfish works, it would pertain to "a righteousness of my own", but Paul says "God's righteousness is revealed from faith to faith" (Ro 1:17) (thus "each man must be fully convinced in his own mind" (Ro 14:5), or else he is sinning and is condemned (Ro 14:23)), such that he...
  6. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    He's not listening to me, he already held the view I enunciate here, but, now, he sees his view is upheld in the particular Scriptures discussed here.
  7. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Here's a "tip" on how you can know whether we speak the same message: actually READ the thing you're "responding" to before responding to it. Proverbs 18 13If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame.
  8. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Guy, the title says "justified by works", so you're not arguing against me. Lol Proverbs 18 13If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame.
  9. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Maybe so. Just trying to understand the Bible--and people like you aren't helpful, bc, for whatever benefit you derive from whatever truths you're affirming, you have lop-sided views of Scripture.
  10. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Nope, trying to understand the Bible--and, again, when we walk by the Spirit, those aren't my works, which would be my righteousness, but God's righteousness thus God's works.
  11. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    1. Gentile believers are in view: a. the Law written on the heart (vv14, 15, 26, 27)is the promise of the New Covenant. b. They're "circumcised in the heart by the Spirit " v(29). 2. They walk after the Spirit so they do the Law. 3. Ro 8:4 we fulfill the Law.
  12. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    In the context, it also mentions God being able to forget a man's unrighteousness. Therefore, since the dynamic of God forgetting unrighteousness is still at play, we know that God forgetting righteousness is still at play. Don't you believe "God doesn't change"? I also proved this is still...
  13. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Because he has a view of Scripture that actually makes sense of its parts?
  14. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    So, to hold your theological system together, you simply have to be left with extra parts lying around--parts others make use of. I don't have extra parts. Your version of God doesn't forget righteousness, my God does forget righteousness, blotting people out of His Book of Life.
  15. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Not sure how "condemned" isn't the same subject. Actually, it was established literally everyone agrees with me because it's what's plainly stated. I can point you to an equation stating 2 + 2 = 4 but if you choose to go outside of logic, and deny it, what can i do? I accept that you reject my...
  16. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    No, actually, I try to square Scripture with Scripture, and people like yourself are of no assistance.
  17. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Well actually it worked. I couldn't accept the importance of His having saved me (past-tense) before. I always thought my works were what saved me. When I did accept that Christ saved me, they went away. However, I admitted I only accept that doctrine in that manner under that kind of pressure...
  18. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Romans 2 says doers of the Law will be justified.
  19. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yep, that's why Romans 2 needs to be reconciled. The doer of the Law, there, is the Gentile believer on whose heart the Law is written. By being under Grace, they fulfill the righteous requirement of the Law without being under Law. They don't even know the Law (v14,15,26, 27).