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  1. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Please... stop it... You are not thinking logically. Flavius Josephus was decidedly NOT a prophet of God. Which begs the question, why is the church depending upon his words for interpretation anyway? The Bible is its own interpreter, dictionary, and authority. The fact is, Josephus never...
  2. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Very good. Glad I helped, to the glory of the Lord. This is why I have said that my post is here as a public record for anyone other than the person I debate with. You also did a good job with the rest of your post about the housetop. I will elaborate more about the housetops here to clarify...
  3. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Oh wow, thank you for that emotionally charged essay disguised as a rebuttal. Truly, it must have taken great spiritual discernment to cram that many LOLs, assumptions, and insults into one post without a single meaningful citation of Scripture. Let’s be real — you claim to have “done your...
  4. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Oh, I see — unless the stones are stacked exactly like a LEGO model of the Second Temple, complete with incense smoke and choir music, you're not buying it? Yes, we get it — you're allergic to nuance. No one said the Temple is still standing in perfect condition like a Greco-Roman theme park...
  5. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Wow, what a stunning display of originality—“cultic gnosis psychosis” again? You really should trademark that phrase since you throw it around like confetti anytime someone dares to think outside your theological echo chamber. And thank you for the sarcastic altar call. But no worries, I don’t...
  6. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Ah, there it is—the classic “cultic gnosis psychosis” buzzword salad. You must have that phrase copy-pasted on standby by now. It's impressive how you managed to turn your refusal to examine Scripture on its own terms into a full-blown witch hunt for post-apostolic approval. Let me guess...
  7. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    You are right, I was not there in 70AD. Your point is? You really ought to learn how to use Google. Try checking reliable historical, archaeological, and scholarly sources—ever heard of the Israel Antiquities Authority? Or the Temple Mount Sifting Project? Maybe crack open a copy of Biblical...
  8. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    @Spiritual Israelite The Jewish Temple being destroyed does NOT make your point, since your point is that "this" fulfills prophecy. That's misleading, a red herring that distracts from the point--which is that the prophecy was "never" that the Jewish Temple would be destroyed. The prophecy was...
  9. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    It is no secret that "most" theologians believe 70 ad fulfilled the prophecy of the fallen Temple. Because most of the church doesn't have their eyes focused on Christ. Their eyes are on temporal things of this world, like physical genealogies, nations, temple buildings, holy lands, wars...
  10. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    There were "LOTS" of stones left standing, one upon another after 70 AD. And many still left standing one upon another 2000 years later. Yes, that is true. Thus 70 AD cannot rationally be the fulfillment of that particular prophesy "IF" it was meant of the Physical buildings of the Temple...
  11. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Entire Bible? LOL!
  12. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    You seriously don’t see the connection between John 2:18–21 and the Olivet Discourse? That’s a massive oversight. In John 2, Jesus clearly refers to His body as the temple: “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” (John 2:19) And just so there’s no confusion, verse 21...
  13. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    I never denied what Christ said about the temple—don’t twist it. The real difference here is that I actually understand what He was talking about. And spoiler alert: it’s not what you think it is. It’s painfully clear you haven’t been enlightened—or maybe never will be if you keep clinging to...
  14. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Blah blah blah blah blah. No, it's true—you absolutely have not refute my position. And why? Because you clearly lack any real spiritual understanding of what Judea, the housetop, the woman, or the ‘sucklings’ actually mean. You’re stuck on the surface while the meaning is miles deeper. But...
  15. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Well, while Douggg is incorrect on Matthew 24:15-22, the verses do talk about a global event WITH THE CHURCH, which God sees as spiritual Judea. You just got wrong Judea, wrong Jerusalem, wrong people, wrong congregation, wrong temple, wrong stones and of course wrong timing. My previous post...
  16. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Why else would anyone not take the time to notice how inconsistent, conflicting, and unsound the foundation of this whole theory actually is? It simply does not fit the context, the narrative, or the declarations of the prophetic text. This is why they have to artificially divide the one verse...
  17. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Also @Spiritual Israelite, no one is privately interpreting stones of the Temple to represent God's people; Christ is. The idea is not what the Jews or the Disciples thought at the time, but what Christ says all throughout Scripture. Christ is the only prophet who is never wrong, and He said not...
  18. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Yet you have not refuted anything. You are saying this becasue you cannot refute what I wrote. No, you are being ludicrous. You do not have a spiritual understanding of what Christ talked about in the first two verses of Matthew 24, for example: Mat 24:1-2 (1) And Jesus went out, and...
  19. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Luke 21:25–28 (25) And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; (26) Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the...