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"their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some." 2 Timothy 2:17

Whoever told you this is a LIAR - run from that person or group. "their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some." 2 Timothy 2:17

Whoever has been telling you this is deeply confused. Not a single Believer in Christ has been transformed yet because that only takes place at the Second Coming. That is what the LORD says, the Apostle Paul and the Apostle John. Read carefully the Holy Scriptures and NEVER add to them , take...

1 Thessalonians was written many years after the Resurrection of Christ.

Your thought process here does not agree with the Gospel, 1 Thess chapter 4 or 1 Corinthians chapter 15. We are ONLY changed and transformed at His Second Coming and the Resurrection.

You are CORRECT = and i NEVER stated nor implied this Go back to Post #131 and SEE the following: So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power...

That was NEVER stated nor implied!!! Can you agree with the Lord Jesus Christ? Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. the LORD Jesus Christ is asking @IndianaRob...

Articulated correctly according to Scripture - Thank You

i have to go now. @MA2444 @IndianaRob @David in NJ May the God of Peace sanctify our hearts, Today, in the LORD Jesus Christ.

This is false and i AGREE with the accuracy of Truth from the Holy Scripture which you replied with. It is our Brother @IndianaRob who believes "the soul is the body". Thus the questions that i presented. Based on this evidence, what are the correct answers to the two questions?

1.) What is the MAIN/DIRECT subject being expressed by the Holy Spirit in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Cor chapter 15??? a.) Resurrection from the grave/earth b.) the soul 2.) When JESUS says: "IAM the Resurrection"; What is HE immediately speaking of??? a.) the physical body that dies b.)...

"soul" would be incorrect AND a falsehood/lie Now the question is: What makes replacing 'body' with 'soul' a very serious error/lie??? Shalom

Is that wrong???

Excellent questions, which i appreciate - thank you! 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 Apostle Paul is addressing to saints in Thessalonica(and us today) what happens to those believers/saints who have died. The term 'died in Christ' signifies that they were SAVED when their physical/flesh bodies died...

SEE - The "nonsense" comment is appropriate when what they post is completely contrary to the words of the LORD and the Apostles.

What occurs FIRST? a.) Resurrection of the "dead in Christ" b.) Rapture of the remaining alive saints on earth

The Lord Jesus Christ has already raised me up in Newness of Life when i was Born-Again by the Spirit of God. Where does your physical/flesh body go when you die?

Please read carefully 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 Shalom

LOL x100 and i AGREE True, but you better make 1000% sure that you are being directed by the Lord to do so otherwise................judgment on YOU!!!

Nope - you have it backwards. The Resurrection and subsequent Rapture is attached to the Second Coming of the LORD. The LORD Jesus Christ attached the Resurrection and Rapture to HIMSELF. John 6:43 Jesus therefore answered and said to them, “Do not murmur(IndianaRob) among yourselves. No...