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  1. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    I'd answered this previously (not sure if you hadn't gotten a chance to respond to it, or what)--in case it is necessary, I'll share it again here Of someone whose Master can make him stand (v4)--he's a true believer, not a false believer (actually, there is no unbeliever mentioned, no...
  2. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    1. We have 80% more UV, so it's precarious. 2. I love Blackberries and Pears, but they DO NOT enjoy being up here! LOL At least their more tender parts do not. The Apples don't have the same issues.
  3. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    1. "Static": not moving from. 2. No, Paul is not "clear" on that--eg (beside the glaring example of Ro 14:23), Ro 11 says the Gentiles who were grafted in by faith can also be cut off for unbelief. Begging the question--that's the topic of the discussion. Christians don't sin? Rather, Paul...
  4. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    @CadyandZoe You're in Phoenix? I'm just north of you, in Flagstaff! It's so hot up here, now, my Pear tree and Blackberry bushes get singed in the afternoon heat! I dump gallons of water on them, but, really, they need artificial shade. I think we have 80% more UV than sea level.
  5. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    1 Corinthians 8 7However, not all people have this knowledge; but some, being accustomed to the idol until now, eat food as if it were sacrificed to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. 8Now food will not bring us [c]close to God; we are neither [d]the worse if we do not eat...
  6. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    "Authority" is a generic thing. We are discussing His Word to check what it is that He has said He uses His "authority" to do. In other words, we both agree that God has infinite power, but we do not agree on what God applies His power to--ie, we do not agree on His Word, which is what He has...
  7. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    More specifically, it declares there is no condemnation for those "in Christ", but this verse makes no statement about "in Christ" being a static state--and the quandary of the condemnation of the one who sins Ro 14:23 can only be resolved by recognizing that Scripture speaks of true believers...
  8. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Why does Paul warn Christians that if they walk after the flesh they will die (Ro 8:12,13)? Why does he call the Corinthians "carnal" and reprimand them for so many sins, and warn them "the unrighteous will not inherit God's Kingdom" right after reprimanding them for their unrighteousness? Is...
  9. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Right, I know your view--this discussion is all about laying out evidence proving your view is incoherent.
  10. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    One of his concerns is faith ("each man must be fully convinced in his own mind"), thus it is not a stretch to assert that one of his concerns would be doubt (the opposite of faith). Clearly, "doubt" is in view in Romans 14:23, because he explains "but he who doubts is condemned if he eats...
  11. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Yeah, the OP is about how people abuse Romans 8:1.
  12. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    How is the sinning Christian "condemned" if there's no condemnation "in Christ"?
  13. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    I know your point--this discussion debunks it. Again, abiding is by keeping commands (Jn 15; 1 Jn 3:23, 24), which explains how those "in Him" aren't condemned, but a Christian who doesn't walk by faith (who is therefore sinning) is "condemned" (they're not abiding in Him). 1. Let me just say...
  14. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Anyone who can read and comprehend basic facts will see your guile--and DO NOT pray to whatever you pray to, that makes you full of guile, for me.
  15. GracePeace

    The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of sin and death?

    Correct. In Romans 7, God issued a Law, but Sin also issued a Law (like two opposing rulers) that made him disobey God's Law with which he agreed. Sin's Law made him go against the Law of his mind--made him work contrary to his own mind, made him oppose himself, which is also called "slavery"...
  16. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    I did answer yes or no, but, again, you don't want to recognize answers. The topic was 1 Co 10, so the answer is given in context.
  17. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    @Episkopos In other words, being "in Christ" is our Promised Land, because the Promised "eternal life" is only "in the Son" (1 Jn 2:28, 3:23,24, 5:11). He says "I am the true Vine", and Israel was "a Vine" (Is 5).
  18. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    The "real question" is the question that was raised. The topic will not be changed.
  19. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    :Laughingoutloud: Did I "trigger" you because I wouldn't let you change the topic? Why not make your own thread, and stop trying to commandeer others' threads? It's rude.
  20. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    For the readers (bc the user has no interest in reality): No, the Scriptural precedent is that people can be His children, then be rejected as His children, and then be received again as His children: in Hosea 1, it says "You are not My people and I am not your god", but it goes on to say...