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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    It is apparent that your belief system is heavily focused on the words of Heb. 10:26-27, having no understanding of the verses following in context: verses 28-38, of which in a previous post, I clearly spelled out HOW a person can sin wilfully, and what THAT ONE sin is, which never has...
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    PAST-Millennialism

    Interesting perspective. As an Amil believer, I have come to understand that the 144,000, are a symbolic number of those OC. saints who were "under the altar", who had died in faith, waiting for "the Promise to come". We see them as being those that were written in "a book of remembrance" in...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    It's simply this, through faith in Christ, and His shed blood, I am made to be perfect in the Father's eyes. I am not under condemnation any longer. By the Gift of God's Holy Spirit within me, I KNOW that I now have eternal life.
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Hurling accusations isn't going deter me or anyone else, who do understand how it is that born again Christians offer up "spiritual sacrifices", by presenting their bodies as a living sacrifice for God to transform us into the characteristics of Christ, by the renewing of our minds, through the...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    What are the "good deeds" called, that are performed by Christ within us? See Gal. 5:22
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    All that I am saying, is scriptural!! Unfortunately, you want to view the scriptures as 100% literal, whereas I am applying the scriptures through that which the Holy Spirit teaches, as Paul conveyed in 1 Cor. 2[5] That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    The "good works" ARE the "good Fruit", which are the attributes and character of God, being the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Gal. 5 [22] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, [23] Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. [24] And...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    The Gift of the Holy Spirit of God to usward, IS THE very vehicle of the GIFT of Eternal life. "Well doing" does not and will not ever bring to us the Gift eternal life, because the Gift is FREELY GIVEN to all who trust in Jesus for their salvation. I don't think you fully understand 1 John...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    So then, by the Grace of God alone, through faith in Jesus Christ, God HAS saved you. Evidently, you don't believe that of God, but rather believe that by you doing good works, you shall save yourself, by way of another gospel of your belief. To believe in Jesus, is to TRUST Him at His word...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    OUR salvation is a FREE GIFT from God the Father Himself, and He (Jesus) is given to us without God repenting THAT He did. That GIFT is Jesus Christ Himself, who is of Elohim, being that of The Father and Son, together as ONE GOD. John 1:1, 14; 3:16. Now, for every person who RECEIVES The...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    James 4:1-8 is about exhorting Christians who are saved, but are walking/living in their fleshly mind, and not the mind/Spirit of Christ. They had to be warned that they could be on the road whereby they could depart from faith in the Living Christ.
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    And the "good" that one will have done, so as to be resurrected unto eternal life, is John 3:18 and Rom. 8:8-9. To believe in Jesus, having the Gift His Holy Spirit. That is the only requirement.
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    I am trying to show that good works by doers of good, can never receive the Gift of Eternal life on that basis.
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    I am saying that you are not wrong in regards to the factions of faith and works. Good works alone cannot bring to us faith for our salvation, but faith alone does bring to us good works through our salvation. It's the parable about the good tree and the corrupt tree. Mat. 7 [17] Even so every...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    I suppose different translations continue to cause confusion. The ONLY single work of God that we should DO, is to have faith in the sacrificial work of Christ, of whom God has sent. Apart from that, there is no OTHER requirement. The thief on the cross attests to it.
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    In light of James 2:14-26 no, you are not wrong. [20] But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? [26] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. The verses are not about judging our salvation, but rather our faith in God's ability to...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Ok, but the scripture says: "This is THE work of God....."
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Yes, Jesus is the Word, made to be flesh. John 1:14 John 5 [39] Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    I agree. To walk in the Spirit, is to rest from our own works, by allowing "the mind of Christ" within us, to do His good work in us and through us, and not the works that we choose to go and do. Heb. 12 [2] Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Please read and study all of KJV 1 Cor. 2 1 Cor. 2[5] That your faith should NOT stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power [authority] of God.