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Give an example of when I wasn't honest kiddo.

Mr E, I apologize. You did give me an example of what you believed to be an infallible teaching of The Church (Pope Leo X condoning burning of heretics). I should have told you that what Pope Leo X wrote (Exsurge Domine, Condemning the Errors of Martin Luther) was not an infallible teaching of...

Wow.....thanks for your condescending vote of confidence.......

Hey E, Let me clarify. I think we would agree that Jesus started The Church (Matthew 16:18) and that the church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Timothy 3:15). While Jesus was alive if there was a disagreement or a question by the Apostles on what the Truth was they would ask Jesus...

Hmmmm....so the church is invisible? So how does one fulfill Matthew 18:17? :watching and waiting:

Not sure what that passage has to do with @St. SteVen and my discussion about baptism having to be public....but thanks for your input!

Very well put. Thank you.

Thank you for the clarification.

Hey Ronald, An atheist can do good works . On the other hand a person with faith in the finished work of Jesus does not necessarily produce good works. Faith does not automatically produce works. That is why Scripture gives the WARNING, "faith without works is dead". Paul also said that God...

I don't understand your rationale but I digress.....

@Ghada simply quoted James soooooo wouldn't it be James who declared Paul a liar? I don't see where @Ghada called Paul a liar.

Yup Mr E, that is true. The Catholic Church doesn't have a very proud history of tolerance to those who oppose it's [sic] beliefs. When have I said otherwise? Which post #? What dogmatic teachings of The Church "stand in stark contradiction to previous teachings that were also held to be...

Thanks Ronald.....Now I better understand what you meant. I am not declaring that a person is justified by works ONLY. I am only repeating what Scripture says: Faith WITHOUT works is dead. That means you have to have both. I agree with Paul when he said, God will render to each one according...

Hey E, Scripture says that the church is the pillar and foundation of truth. If it isn't the Catholic Church, which one is it? Curious Mary

Every day is a good day for Mary!

Ummmm......when did I say that Paul lied? Can you give me that post #?????

Why are you being so condescending? Have I done that to you? Curious Mary

Thanks for the clarification steven! Yes, we disagree on "public declaration". I have given Scriptural evidence of both PUBLIC and PRIVATE baptisms. You only gave examples of public baptisms....but that's ok.

You crack me up Steven. I looked back at all of our posts. Only YOU brought up Catholic......enough said.

Lol....No, I don't have a clue what your point is. Definition 1b directly applies to the Catholic church while 1a and 1c apply to "church"...that could be any church (denomination). While 2a is in reference to ANY dominant theory, opinion, or practice. There is clarification of that right...