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Hey E, I apologize. You lost me on this one. I didn't insert 'contrary to the truth'. It is under #2, third sentence down. Maybe I am misunderstanding your point? Sincerely, Mary

When have I not been rational?

O'boy...here we go again.....adherence to a religious opinion contrary to church dogma (post #117) Jesus was heretical to orthodox Judaism (post #136) Post #120 Was 3 times not enough for you????????? hmmx1: YOU and only YOU have interjected the word Catholic into our discussion. Are you...

I don't understand your "positive term" statement. Can you elaborate? Curious Mary (I do like your bumper sticker idea, very witty)

Really? When was I not honest?

Nope, not completely true. I only have to believe in the infallible teachings (dogma) of The Church. Do you know what they are? Also, if you reject the teachings of your church, would you be a heretic? What church is that?

Lol....So when I said "not heretical to God" you equate that to "not heretical to Catholics"????????????? I'm not following your logic but you don't need to explain it....I'm Good. I can see that you want to inject my Catholic faith into our discussion when I haven't injected it at all. :Thumbsup:

Thanks CadyandZoe, I completely understand the 400-year historical teaching of Protestants. But I will happily expand on what Christianity has taught for 2,000 years and The Church still teaches. That 2,000-year teaching doesn't exclusively say, as you suggested, that "justification is...

Why did you bring up the "living waters" part of baptism written about in the Didache? Why don't you agree with the writings of men that lived during the times of the Apostles, but agree with the writings of men from the Reformation (or later)?

Lol....I never mentioned, suggested, implied, brought up the thought, etc that God needed to be Catholic to fit my definition. That is a suggestion that you are erroneously putting on me by asking that question and claiming it as "evidence of a narrow view". Yup, Jesus was heretical to orthodox...

Hey mailmandan, I think you are saying that when a man has faith in Christ, he will do good works. However, if a man only has "rightly understood" faith, they will still be saved. Respectfully Mary

Well put. Thank you!

Nope, not claiming that at all. Preaching (revealing/telling the Truth) to non-Christians is not a heretical act. It would be heretical to the adherents of Buddhism, but not heretical to God.

Steven, The Truth is determined by the Church which is the pillar and foundation of Truth. Thank you for your opinion. I did not narrow the definition. I expanded it. What I have presented is not a Catholic definition. It is a dictionary definition.

Oh goodness......Steven, Steven, Steven! In the case of the Eunuch, it literally says they both went down into the water, Philip and the eunuch! Does it say anything about anyone else being around? Or is your argument that they were outside along a public road so there could have been other...

Nope, not true. Look the word up instead of giving your opinion: Heresy: an opinion, doctrine, or practice contrary to the truth https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/heresy

Steven, You have narrowed the definition of heresy to Jesus being heretical because he disagreed with Jewish dogma. I have agreed with your narrow definition of the word heresy! QUOTE FROME ME in post #112: YES Jesus was a heretic. I then broadened the discussion by rightfully pointing out...

Nope, I look at ALL definitions of heresy instead of narrowly defining it! Heresy (or to be heretical) is also adherence to a religious opinion contrary to church dogma. Since Jesus was 'the church' he couldn't hold an opinion opposite of the church. Does that help you get the gist of what I...

Lol....No Steven, I am not one of those women. If you look back thru my previous posts, you will see that I apologize when I am wrong and will let you know if you "win". My point about the Trinity is that it is a term, or a single word, to sum up the 3 persons (entities) spoken of throughout...

He Steven, I get the gist of what you are saying. Anyone that teaches opposite of orthodox teaching (or the status quo teaching) then they are heretical. Based on that narrow definition of heresy, YES Jesus was a heretic. But you are not looking at the entire definition of heresy. Heresy is...