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  1. Stranger

    The Elect?

    You need to catch up. That is already a given. Of course the elect are in Adam until they are saved. All are in Adam at one point. Stranger
  2. Stranger

    The Elect?

    Whether you call it a double payment or not, matters not. Christ has paid for all sin. The Father is satisfied with that payment. But that payment is only applied to those 'in Christ'. That doesn't mean the sins of those in Adam haven't been paid for. They have. They simply refuse...
  3. Stranger

    The Elect?

    Somethings are known only to God. And He doesn't tell us the 'why' of all things. I would consider this: the elect and non-elect represent those who are of God and those not of God. We all are products of the two seeds now in play since the fall of man. The seed of God, and the seed of...
  4. Stranger

    The Elect?

    The non-elect. Stranger
  5. Stranger

    The Elect?

    Is it really obvious? It means those who are not 'in Christ' are not saved and are not going to heaven even though all sins have been paid for. Is that obvious to you also? I don't see how your questions apply. Stranger
  6. Stranger

    The Elect?

    You need to pay attention. Stranger
  7. Stranger

    The Elect?

    Being out of Christ means you are in Adam and so in your sins. So, as I said, they remain in their sins and pay the penalty. All sins have been paid for, in Christ. Not in Adam. Stranger
  8. Stranger

    The Elect?

    Being in Adam is a location. Being in Christ is a location. Because one is in Adam, he is a sinner. Because one is in Christ he is righteouss. Because one is in Adam, he remains in his sins and suffers the penalty. Because one is in Christ, the blood is applied to his sins and he does...
  9. Stranger

    The Elect?

    You have already asked that and I answered in post #96. Go back and reread. Stranger
  10. Stranger

    The Elect?

    Everyman born of the human race is in Adam. There is no, "not being in that location" unless you are 'in Christ'. Because all are in Adam, then they are guilty of sins. Only those who come to Christ by faith, are 'in Christ' and partake of the redemption provided. Those who remain in Adam...
  11. Stranger

    The Elect?

    No, being in Adam is just a location. Because one is in Adam, he is a sinner. Stranger
  12. Stranger

    The Elect?

    Being in Adam and not in Christ, means you remain in your sins, even though Christ has paid for them all. Stranger
  13. Stranger

    The Elect?

    Jesus blood covered all sin. The question is not if Jesus died for all sins or not. The question is are you in Adam or Christ? Stranger
  14. Stranger

    The Elect?

    No, you're not paying attention. Though all their sins are paid for, they remain 'in Adam'. They must be 'in Christ' to be saved and go to Heaven. Stranger
  15. Stranger

    The Elect?

    Yes it is. That changes nothing. Though all their sins are paid for, they remain in their sins because they refuse Christ. One must be 'in Christ'. They remain 'in Adam'. Stranger
  16. Stranger

    The Elect?

    Jesus died for all sins as He paid the price for Adam's sin. Jesus is the Last Adam but the Second Man. (1 Cor. 15:45-47) Adam's entire race is fallen. Christ, as the Last Adam, payed the price for all in Adam, and the offer of redemption is given. (1 Cor. 15:22) Believe on Jesus...
  17. Stranger

    KJV versus Modern Translations

    Not as Scripture. They were placed by themselves but not added to the Scripture. They were viewed as historical but not inspired. So you see, this big bru-haha over the KJV today not being the same as the 1611 is nothing but a lie. If you have a KJV Bible, you have the 1611. Stranger
  18. Stranger

    KJV versus Modern Translations

    Then you present it. I could send you also to a lot of 'links'. Grow some. Take some responsibility. Stand on what you say...and not just a link. Stranger
  19. Stranger

    KJV versus Modern Translations

    There were no 'other books of the Bible' as far as Scripture. As far as other books that claimed inspiration, there were others. But they were not accepted. The Apocryphal books were always doubted. And so rejected as inspired by God. Stranger
  20. Stranger

    KJV versus Modern Translations

    The apocrypha was never considered Scripture by the KJV. Thus it was placed at the end by itself. What now? Stranger