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  1. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    Of course it does. That's why I look at the whole of scripture rather than foolishly rely on what obviously people can easily misinterpret. The foolishness is in thinking one understands Paul's message to be the very opposite of the rest of the bible including the words of Jesus....who is...
  2. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    On a thread about imputation it doesn't help that there is a religious tradition being cited here that has no biblical basis. That has to be addressed as it is foundational in knowing where we stand with God. What I am addressing is a real problem that is holding people back from knowledge of...
  3. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    The Israelites in the desert were led by the Spirit...in a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night. Yet these did not enter into the Promised Land. They were supernaturally saved yet their unbelief caused them to wander in the desert until they perished...without having entered into God's...
  4. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    There is no balance in "assumed righteousness". It is purely a human thing to do...with its desire for self-preservation. Waiting on the Lord is something else entirely. In that case a person considers himself as nothing...and it is God who comes down and raises that person up. When that...
  5. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Don't make ignorance of history a virtue. Likewise know the bible. Not just a few verses taken out of context that support a religious justification for uncrucified flesh. Notice that ALL the verses that are misunderstood come from Paul's...
  6. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    I do. You think that whatever is written in the bible is up for your interpretation. If it says the faith OF Christ...you will claim your faith as being that OF Christ. Lots of modern religionists do that very thing. That's called..:"name it claim it". You see something you WANT to be true for...
  7. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    Again, being LED by the Spirit is not the same as being IN the Spirit. We can follow Christ at different distances under OUR own power. The wilderness walk is a testing ground for conformity to Christ...in death...so that we can fully surrender ourselves (rather than all this defending the flesh...
  8. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    God doesn't meet our expectations, nor should He. We should be meeting His expectations. So we have the tail wagging the dog, so to speak. God can do as He wants without having us go off on a tangent because we are unable to wait on Him. I see the whole religious system that way....moving...
  9. Episkopos

    Heresy or error?

    The truth is that there is power in the blood (life) of Christ. There is no need to pretend that sinfulness can be covered up with holiness, and that God sees us as something we are not. God is not blind. We don't need to call God a liar to declare ourselves righteous because of our beliefs...
  10. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    Calvin held to an extreme position. He believed that divine grace trumped human responsibility. When he realized that people who saw themselves as under grace were slackers when it came to human responsibility...he sought to force holiness on people. He even condemned people to death. All this...
  11. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    I know you do. :) But the Israelites DIED in the wilderness. Wake up call alert! We will be cut off...just they were...by failing to enter in. This is speaking of the higher walk...which can only be imputed to someone...if they have actually been translated into Zion to walk in resurrection...
  12. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    God never cursed His Son. The religious outer man did this...to preserve his peace. The chastisement of OUR peace was on Him. He was cursed by evil men. You are taking the side of evil men here if you think what was imputed to Him was true. Of course evil men impute things on people that...
  13. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    The cornerstone of all religion is based on saving the outer man....yes. One must tear down before one can build. Look at Jeremiah...a prophet to the nations....what did God say for him to do? "See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down...
  14. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    Answer to @VictoryinJesus Man is created in God's image...in the inner man. It is possible to rally to God (from that place) by humbling ourselves in heartfelt surrender. That is within our power. We can STOP what we are doing at any time, and trust the Lord. To some degree we can...by faith...
  15. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    My answer to @Lizbeth In my time of warring for the truth, I have assailed this fortress many times. And with some success. What I'm fighting against is a spiritual stronghold that imprisons believers in half-truths and lies. So yes, as Paul said, I am tearing down spiritual strongholds. But...
  16. Episkopos

    Heresy or error?

    Thank you Keturah for a fine example of a heretical teaching. Without people willing to go out on a limb and post what some extremist religionists believe...these threads would not be as interesting.
  17. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    There you go! A proper use of the word imputing. Finally. Do you see that imputing needs to be true? It can't be something that is not appropriate to attribute to someone. Like we can't impute sin to Christ or God's righteousness to people. There may yet be hope! :)
  18. Episkopos

    Instruction in righteousness

    Yes. The wilderness walk has doctrines that perpetuate a lack of advancement into holiness. It's called "incremental holiness"...which doesn't exist. Looking to be covered by Christ incrementally makes one walk in endless circles. Either one crosses over into the Promised Land...or not. We can...
  19. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    Education is key. Knowledge is key. I remember back in the day there was a misunderstanding of the word "aggravate". People would say they were aggravated about something. What they meant was, they were frustrated or angry about something. But aggravate means to make worse. So it was a misuse...
  20. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    LOL. I am totally grasping what is being said. It's just not biblical. And you are not using the word "imputation" correctly. And the reason for that misuse is a misunderstanding of what divine grace is as well as human responsibility.