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OK Let me set this out... What is the relationship between righteousness (justification), and salvation by faith (faithfulness). 1. These belong on one level or the other. They must be understood on their level. The level of salvation corresponds to the level of faith and righteousness. 2...

You swallowing camels...but your fellow posters will not call you out on it. They call covering up errors....love. :rolleyes:

Reading skills aside..you are not the first to read the book. In the book are laid out the ways of God (plural) AND the way of God in Christ. It's not surprising that you are skimming and not understanding the distinction. The only self-righteous act is to think one is righteous. Are you...

yes, But then you go on to say other things as if Jesus only died for the church. You are mixing apples with hand-grenades here. Jesus didn't die for our justification. No, He was RAISED to life for the justification of LIFE (Read Romans 5) for those who believe. He DIED for the sins of the...

Maybe you need to be better informed. The Reformation threw out the Catholic idea of God IMPARTING righteousness to the one who is ready to be elevated into holiness. But Luther hated that idea. He said, rather, that God imputes His own righteousness on a believer "just as if he never sinned"...

All protestant churches do. Luther did...and people follow Luther unquestioningly...like what Keturah said..."idolization"...(whatever that means). :) A fresh coat of snow over a dunghill...that shields God's ability to discern what we really are???!!??? :rolleyes: But as you can see by my...

We surrender into His covering righteousness through OUR repentance (our righteousness) , not HIS repentance.... and WE are the ones who build on the foundation of Christ? How? by righteousness. But most people will NOT do this. Instead, through ignorance and a lively ego...most will build on...

LOL. I have no title or professional vapouring to hide behind. What do you know of me? It's incredible that you put so much faith in your own opinion. If that doesn't prove your motivation to everyone here.... I am outside the religious system with its artificial titles and support. I have come...

I have to disagree with you otherwise if I did agree, I might be accused of idolatry (or idolization or whatever):eek: :hmhehm:backtop:

I don't assume anything. And I've said I am not presently in the perfect walk at this time. Otherwise I wouldn't be here. Do I have to say it in every post to not offend you ego Mr. E (go)? You are assuming things from your own experience. If you said the things I say...it would definitely be...

To @Eternally Grateful That's what you say...not me. To understand things like salvation, righteousness and holiness...you have to pay a lot more attention than what you are doing. This is not about INHERITING salvation. The modern doctrines don't care about the power of Christ over sin. They...

Not at all. I'm open to a proper and scriptural challenge to what I say. I actually thrive on it. I love Bible studies. :) What you are missing in your estimation is the level of my training in Christ. I can't say much here as so many are fragile in their way of seeing others than themselves...

There is more than one plane to the Christian walk. Paul is always speaking of the higher walk. He had already walked on the lower walk all his life. So how many walk with no regard to the flesh? How many walk in resurrection life? So we have to see that the high calling that Paul was being...

An unbroken seed doesn't bear fruit. We are to be FOUND in Christ....no longer walking as a common man. Phil. 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: Ironically...

Yes. And I think most or all of us agree with you here...you have found the middle-ground, so to speak. But the difference is the fact that there is more than 1 salvation we need to cross over into. There is "saved from", and "saved to". There are the righteous, and the holy. In Psalms 116 it...

Keep in mind the wilderness walk that we as Gentiles are in spiritually. Why we fail to manifest outwardly is because we are still trapped on the wrong side of the Jordan. We are in Adam until we enter INTO Christ. Into the Promised land where we cease to be "IN Adam" (Hebrew be-Adam). This is...

Just notice what people are saying that agree with your take. They are happy to have God's unconditional approval. They are happy to be "saved". As long as people take a sample of grace for the full measure, the church will remain dead and/or in a deep sleep. This was prophesied...the "rouach...

I see how you are seeing this.... but you have my purpose wrong. I see a future judgment and rejection coming on the church of our time. But the wheat and tares must grow together. What I am seeking to avoid are so many losses in the wilderness part of the walk. I expect this to be...

Amen! I pray the Lord hears your hearts' cry brother. It's always about coming to the end of ourselves.

I have tried to explain things to you in many ways...but the pride is so strong in you that you react. You don't brag about yours?....that is itself a brag. I speak only to help others grasp difficult truths. I don't know how aware you are of your own condition. I certainly don't come here for...