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LOL!!!!! We all are sinners, to begin with! My goodness! Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord The spirit of disobedience is sin and the wage of sin is death! Get it? This is Bible 101! We all got it from Adam and Eve -...

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You don't get it. Still! Serpent = cursed unclean spirit of man! Not a created being. God cursed the serpent in Genesis to go upon its belly that the dust should be its food all the days of thy life. It is UNSAVED MAN that is at enmity with the Woman. God, not Adam, called the Serpent...

Huh? What the heck are you babbling about? What is your point? This will not disprove the fact that ALL mankind inherited sin from Adam and Eve. Rom 5:12 (12) Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned...

So-called expert won't respond...well becasue what you wrote was nothing but speculation: "The Locusts that come out of the Bottomless Pit in around 1,020 years from now, will be the judged Kings of the earth who will be judged at Armageddon in around 20 years from now and at the same time the...

I was not. It was God's Word I quoted that proves you are wrong with your interpretation. What verses did you quote that refuted my position? There were none! Huh? And? Show me the examples. And what does the context of the verses tell you? No Satan is NOT a created being, or an entity...

Again, according to God's word, it is not a matter of man's choice to be good, but of his congenital, inherited sin problem. Because of this, it is God's assessment that man goes astray from the womb. If it was truly dependent upon his own choices, it would be impossible for all (as in every...

Free will?? No, we ALL "were" already had evil spirits to begin with. Started with Eve who was passed down to us. Do you remember when was the first sin of your life? No? We already had the spirit of disobedience within us before we were born. Nothing to do with our free will in the womb! You...

Can you find Scripture to prove my position wrong anyway? Can you even answer this question asked for you, with Scripture or not: "If God created "everything", then did the Holy God create sin or even iniquity FOUND IN Eve and Adam?" Yes or no?

Think about this. Sin is simply disobedience. If you believe in original sin, then who created it? Honestly? Is it God if you believe He created "everything?" Who brought disobedience into existence in the world? Man or God? We can't just gloss over questions because they are difficult and...

Here. Re-read and consider carefully. Do you have any biblical refutation? Why ask for a source because you could not defend your doctrine on Satan coming back into heaven or how the sons of God being the children of God (not angels) present themselves before the Lord like we do in church today?

No. God didn't create Satan...nor sin, wickedness, or iniquity! What you believe is fatally flawed. It is not semantics, it is a unbiblical conundrum, a Christian dilemma, a church enigma, a vivid contradictory mystery to all that you say you believe. A million dollar question for you: If...

Incorrect @Johann. You were the one who read into Scripture with suppositions. For example, you said: Did this place take place in third heaven where God is? Who were the sons of God? How do they present themselves before the LORD? How did Satan came among the sons of God? You assumed or...

Where did I say that the leviathan represented Satan?

No, it wasn't. Read carefully: Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? The serpent (the spirit of disobedience found within man) is more...

No. There was NEVER an "angel" named Lucifer in heaven. You cannot find one single scripture that says Lucifer was what men call an angel, nor is he ever called an angel. Nowhere! Frankly, that is the eisegesis (not exegesis) of men who do not understand that the scriptures are Spiritual...

Sorry no. No where in the whole Bible, even the verses you quoted above, will you ever read that God created Satan and the "heavenly angels". That is fact, not speculation that so many Christians employ as proof. People who believe that must read that into the Bible from the eir own...

You mean, "...hath God said?' Genesis 3:1 "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?" The serpent is subtil, cunning, crafty, shrewd, clever, sly...

Can you prove this with Scripture? Before the episode in the garden, there was no spirit of disobedience. That spirit was conceived within Adam and Eve, and they disobeyed. There was no sin in the flesh of Adam and Eve until in their spirit they disobeyed. Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy...

Tony wrote an excellent article on the four living creatures (beasts in KJV) which are also Cherubim. Here is the link to the article for your study.