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I already explained it; maybe not on this thread though. What event ended Christ's Ministry at His 1st coming? His crucifixion. If the final 70th week of Daniel 9:27 was part of Christ's Ministry, then the Daniel 9:26 verse should have said Messiah would be "cut off" (crucifixion) after the...

I already explained the Daniel 9:26 verse showing that Messiah would be "cut off" after the 69th... week, NOT after the 70th week. Not my problem if you don't know how to count.

God did not give us all teachers in the Church. Apostle John said to try the spirits, to see if they were of God or not. That means God allows us to be tested. The New Testament Epistles by Paul, Peter, and John all warn us about false ones that creep in. Paul said he warned the brethren night...

What I said makes perfect... sense. The doctrine of men you are claiming about the 70th week is that the final 70th week was part of Christ's Ministry. What specific event ended... Christ's Ministry at His 1st coming? His crucifixion, which is what the idea of Messiah (Christ) being "cut off"...

Well, the problem Doug is having is one that many brethren fall into, with wrongly following mens doctrines instead of understanding the actual Bible Scripture flow line upon line, chapter by chapter. Very, very few Churches today actually teach Bible line upon line, but do topical presentations...

The seven main SIGNS of the end leading up to Christ's future return is what He was giving His disciples (and us) while upon the Mount of Olives per Matthew 24 and Mark 13. Those 2 Chapters specifically follow the events of the SEALS of Revelation 6. That means a parallel study with the Seals of...

You are not upholding Bible Scripture, you are trying to butcher it with trying to making it say something it is not, or that is, the men you have believed on do that and you follow them.

For the false doctrine you have believed to be Biblical, the Daniel 9:26 verse would have to say Messiah was "cut off" after the 70th week, and not the 69th week. And this is simple common sense. So why do you support a doctrine that is a LIE and is impossible to prove?

You reply with No substance, the difference.

Well, Jay is not correct, because he has left what the actual Bible Scripture states for the timeline of the end. Jesus showed in His Olivet discourse that the "great tribulation" will happen at the very end of this present world, just prior to His future 2nd coming. He then also showed in...

The above is in error, simply because the Daniel 9:26 verse says Messiah would be "cut off" after the 62 and 7 weeks (the 7 weeks come from verse 25). 62 plus 7 equals 69 weeks, not 70.

What you appear to lack is an understanding of timelines, like when it was that Lucifer first rebelled in coveting God's throne for himself. Lucifer's rebellion when he drew a third of the stars (angels) was prior... to his time as "that old serpent" in God's Garden of Eden. By the time Satan...

You are only straining at a gnat, because Peter of course included the idea of Christ's crucifixion, which automatically includes Christ's Blood shed upon the cross for the remission of sins. Just any ole' thing you can do to try and sway the Scripture towards the FALSE doctrine of men you follow.

THAT IS A FALSE AFFIRMATION, an empty hope that the false doctrine you follow is correct, when all you have to do is simply follow the simplicity of the Daniel 9 Scripture.

When you read what Peter said in Acts 10 & 11, then it shows Peter was actually first to be shown by God and realize the 'mystery', and not by Paul... Acts 10:28 28 And he said unto them, "Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of...

That is a mark of a false prophet, because Jesus said no man knows the day or hour of His future coming.

The subject of the discussion is the false idea that Jesus fulfilled the final 70th week DURING His Ministry (1st coming). He did not, and all the early Church fathers agree He did not. No sense then to try... and bring in irrelevant points that have no bearing.

FIRST COMING: Zech 9:9 9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. SECOND COMING: Zech 9:10 10 And I will cut off the chariot from...

There you go again with that FALSE DISPENSATIONALIST CRUD, trying to SPLIT The Gospel of Jesus Christ APART when God's Word does no such thing. Could Lord Jesus and His Apostles preach the coming death and resurrection of Jesus before it happened? Jesus told His Apostles, but they didn't yet...

BRETHREN IN CHRIST: I hate to say it, but most preachers today are on men's traditions and don't really study all their Bible. That's one of the main reasons why they don't understand that The Gospel of Jesus Christ was... revealed to Abraham. With Paul showing in Galatians 3 and Romans 4 that...