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LOL.

Im not ignoring that one little bit. What the tools and warriors are doesn’t change the fact that his example is to initiate a war - just like the Crusaders.

We’re talking about the reasons FOR the Crusades.

I see. Moving the goal posts again. 1st, you speak in the negative, who Jesus did not command to fight with a sword. This begs the question I asked, then who. Now you say no one. This goes back to your implication that Jesus told his supporters to buy a sword for no application. You affirm in...

1st, yes, you are moving the goalposts. You asked for Scripture, the restrict answers you’ll accept to NT - AS IF I haven’t already provided many verses. 2nd, people live today the way they always did in terms of morals. For instance, I know a guy whose a cowardly pacifist while thinking he’s...

This is the plight of the over-spiritualized.

I’m free to choose. Why do you keep overlooking that verse, where there is freedom, there is the Spirit of the Lord?

Who did he command his followers to fight against in buying a sword?

Agh ha. Moving the goal posts. Who did God use in 1 Samuel 15:3 put to death men and women, children and infants?

I used to have a friend who claimed Jesus actually drank fruit juice. (They just called it wine.) The idea that the all powerful, all knowing Creator of the universe doesn’t know the difference between fruit juice and wine, an alcoholic drink, by definition, is laughable.

Like buy a sword and give to Caesar what is Caesars.

No response to your false idea being refuted that God only protects without killing? Not surprising. Why let facts get in the way of a narrative!

Your taking Scripture out of practical context of today - and disregarding Scripture that does talk about today. I'm talking about justice HERE AND NOW by human hands and I'm sure you know that. Scripture commands US to do justice. Being overly-spiritualized, you keep pretending it is not our...

We are agreed. The Crusaders reflect Jesus, the man who will return to slaughter his enemies at the first. :pics:

You keep attempting to make exceptions the rule. I asked you what justice would look like and you provided no answer. Typical.

That's great in theory. But in practice, in the world, that is not the case as your obsession with this thread shows, forever condemning the side that acted to restore justice and save Christian lives.

Yea, no need to even pay lip service to the soulful needs! That's how over-spiritualized you are. It reminds me of a joke by George Carlin, the overly-spiritualized image of God is this all-powerful invisible man in the sky AND for some reason, he (aka the over-spiritualized Church) always...

Jesus, the man who will return to slaughter his enemies at the first?

The Crusades should invoke the sense of glorious Christian times when men were men and defended their keep. Regarding the depths of human depravity, you should feel profound pride that with Christians, this is the exception. With the Jihadi's, this remains the rule to this very day. The...

There's where you are wrong; justice is not evil. This shows your utter lack of balance.