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That is false doctrine of "church-ianity", no matter what one understands concerning them which come out of great tribulation. You haven't learned that the symbolic number of 144,000 are literally of Israel, who were "under the altar" of the OC.

Je Jerusalem/Israel on earth has no future with God until they each accept Jesus as their personal Savior. Thankfully, down through generations since Pentecost, a remnant of individuals have converted through faith in Jesus. All of such have heard the call to "flee to the valley". Zech. 14 [5]...

Well, I suppose that "Scout Motors", trucks and Suvs, formerly "International", doesn't understand that. They are now in the process of building a plant in Blythewood, SC., just outside of Columbia SC...

Getting back to the title of this thread, I shall continue to emphasize that the 144,000 are already redeemed from the earth, of which took place after Jesus' resurrection and/or on Pentecost. But, as it was said to them, they "must rest yet for a little season" Rev. 6:11. Therefore, though...

First you have to understand that in that parable, the rich man, Lazarus and even Abraham, were not consciously alive speaking or seeing one another. It is apparent that you do not agree with the factual reality of Gen. 3:22, that I expounded upon in post #307. If so, then the fictional views...

Maybe if you can find a copy of "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion", in and of itself, it will deliver their core of understanding to you, that first and foremost, according to them, the "goyim" (gentiles) do not deserve to live, and that they themselves are "the Savior of the world", and...

Except one, which is Jesus' conclusion. Jesus alone, is the ONLY truth of that parable, being that of Himself. Luke 26 [30] And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.[31] And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will...

It is apparent that in Gen. 3:22 man was not capable or allowed to have eternal life, or any thing to cause him to have eternal existence of any kind, beyond his mortal death. [22] And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth...

What if what you perceive of soul, spirit and hell is nothing of what you say, or that of what the Jews believe? Would you listen to it, or are you content to follow the majority of church-ianity, as well as the Jews? Try this with the KJV: 1. Man never was given or received a "soul" from God...

It appears that neither "Davy" or "atpollard" understand the dilemma that neither can escape from. Given their back and forth issue on reading the words of God literally or verbatim, how does anyone else here view the Rich man and Lazarus? Luke 16:19-31. Should it be read literally or verbatim...

No one is disagreeing with you about the Jews and the lost tribes. However, ever since Pentecost, none are understanding that ever since Jesus' shed blood, they are subject to the New Covenant of Jesus, and must be born again of God's Holy Spirit, while they still have breath, and therefore all...

Are you taking the written words of God literally, as you say that you do? Could it be that you don't understand the words "literally" and "verbatim"? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally. Or is it that you are meaning to describe your methodology of understanding the written...

Ref. #287: A finished diamond has many facets. If ten people surrounded that diamond, gazing upon it under a light, each are going to see different variations of colors, due to "the light" being refracted through it. What one sees, doesn't change the diamond or the light. A classic example of...

Ref. #1467, I am meaning that resting in Jesus Himself eclipses the keeping of the 7th day sabbath.

Let's "search" for the prophetic "scriptures" about Jesus, and not the Jews! John 5:39. I still see all the above as beginning soon after the Day of Pentecost, whereby the Righteousness of God was established in and through Jesus (the "sword" taken out of the "sheath" of secrecy) and then...

Ezk. 21[3] And say to the land of Israel, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I am against thee, and will draw forth my sword out of his sheath, and will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked. [4] Seeing then that I will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked, therefore shall my sword...

Out of every generation, are there not a remnant of those whom God seeks, coming out from both Judah and Israel to God, through having faith in Jesus? Yes, there are. We know them as being "born again Jews". And of course, God does not see any difference.

Well, after reading and studying all of KJV Rev. 21 and 22, in conjunction with 2 Peter 3:3-13, I cannot readily say that it will be a literal planet, such as this present Earth within a solar system. According to Peter 3:10-11, even the heavens of such, will pass away, and planet earth will be...

Maybe because that is where you stopped? But, by your lead now, I will continue on to 28. Ahhh...yes, the New Covenant through Jesus.  Altogether, it consists of born again Christians, being from the house ofJudah, from the house of Israel, along with those from the Gentiles, because during His...

WHAT? Still future?? I strongly doubt that!! Who did you think that the one Stick is? It is Jesus!! Even the symbol of His cross, the "joining" of "two sticks", reveals that by His crucifixion and resurrection. Along with the Gentiles, both the house of Judah and the house of Israel, are on...