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Lol....well, first off, I never "completely disregarded" that He was an adult when he was water baptized. The FACT is in post #326 I stated this: "Jesus was baptized as an adult". I look forward to a retraction of your statement:balloons: Second off.....He was a child when he was "baptized"...

I never said those things bring justification sooooooo I guess there is nothing to debate here. :Shining:

You are missing the point Charlie. There are DOZENS of times in Scripture where God uses visible signs of an invisible Grace. You stated, "that water had nothing to do with my redemption". You are correct, the water on its own had nothing to do with your redemption. I suspect you took many...

Thanks Charlie. As long as Moses hands were lifted, the Israelites were winning the battle. Was the faith in Moses hands? Did the faith in Jesus clothes heal the woman in Matthew 9? Was their faith in the spit that healed people? Is it the faith in the oil that makes us well (James 5:14)...

Hello. The defense for infant baptism began because some started arguing against it. It was an accepted practice in the 1st century based on what Scripture says: baptize all, baptism equated to circumcision, and entire families were baptized. That is why the argument FOR infant baptism began...

Hey, amigo, that's what your fellow Protestants have been doing for the last 500 years. You don't heed The Church. You think you are following Christ's commandments but you all still disagree with each other on what it takes to be saved. What gives? You are reading from the same bible sowhy all...

Ok Amigo. Lets put your theory to the test. Can a 5-year-old make that decision? Curious Mary

Yup, you accept the part of Scripture that says sin is washed by blood. You reject Scripture that says sin is washed by water: Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Rise and be...

Not true Wrangler. Entire families were baptized. Your THEORY is that there were no infants or children in those families, but your THEORY does not trump Scripture. Keeping it real....Mary

Thanks Enoch. Help me out here. Where does Scripture give instructions on HOW to baptize? Where does Scripture say God has already made provision for the salvation of infants and children through Christ?

Hey Charlie..... there are Protestant denominations that adhere to Scripture and teach that it is a "cleansing process"......So what is your point? Since the beginning of Christianity, us Christians have taught that baptism IS a "cleansing process". It is salvific (1 Peter 3:21), washes away...

Ummmm.....I already stated that Scripture is silent on baptizing of infants. It doesn't say to do it OR not to it. You and your men have read INTO Scripture NOT to baptize infants! I havn't! Sooooo what's your point? o_O Scripture is silent on what age a person can accept Jesus and become his...

Oh goodness Wrangler.....I don't know why I even try to carry on a conversation with you. It seems you believe if you keep telling a lie it will eventually come true. Scripture does not say that only adults were baptized. That is a complete lie, and you know it. As I have clearly pointed out to...

Huh? False alternative? That makes no sense....let's move on. If you can show me in Scripture where it says that "baptize all" means "don't baptize infants" OR that there is a disclaimer saying the infants of families were NOT to be baptized I will join you in your fight not to allow infants...

Oh goodness Wrangler.....It appears you do not know the definition of a straw man argument. But that was a very artful dodge to avoid the FACT that at no point, nowhere, does Scripture tell us to baptize or not to baptize infants. Scripture does NOT only have examples of adults being baptized...

Thanks Wrangler. In a previous post I admitted that at times I do mock others. You have a blind spot to your own deficiencies. That is my problem, not yours. So back to the original discussion since we are getting off into the weeds as they say...whoever "they" are. :watching and waiting: In...

Hey Wrangler, If I my statements are "mocking" then what does that make you with statements like this: You are not a Christ follower, making up your own tradition contrary to the word of God.... Anyone who actually reads the Bible realizes how much the RCC goes against what it says. For you...

Yup, there were ONLY adults in entire families that were baptized......

Mr. Pardo, Thank you for your honest answer. However, you only answered one of my questions. Here is the other question you didn't answer: Does that mean that those that followed Christ for the first 30 years after his death were not Christians? And FYI....your derogatory "pagan" comment...

Lol....Got it. You have none. Thank you for your time.