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    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    Actually, when John 1:51 is entertained and examined first by our minds, we perceive that Jesus was wanting to provide a glimmer of hope and expectation, that they would see a reality of evidence that He whom they were following, was indeed the Messiah, backing up the words of John the baptist...
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    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    In that post #21, this thread, I wrote: We could go on with the transfiguration, and what the three disciples said they saw, of which is in direct contrast to what Jesus said of what they would see: John 1:51.
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    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    God thinks and speaks in the past, in the present, and in the future....all at the same time. Therefore, the book of Revelation is such a condition, of the thoughts of His mind. I don't believe that all of Revelation is all future. When we read Revelation, we must recognize by "the mind of...
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    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    God the Father's plan of restoration, is in regard to people repenting towards Him, through faith in Christ. In a recent post on this site, I wrote about it under the thread title: "Were the Two witnesses from the past?" (Christian Debate site- post #428- #443 (beginning on page 22). I have...
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    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    From my post #21, I also gave a few examples of understanding, whereby most professing Christians will balk at it, and even go to the point to persecute, just because it doesn't fit with the overall understanding of "church-ianity" by "the wisdom of men". 1 Cor. 2:5. What is your understanding...
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    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    The 10C Law was not written so that it should give the gift of eternal life, by one following it to the letter. Nor was the letter of the Law to be an object of worship, to prove that one is godly, and therefore by keeping it, one is approved of God. The Law was given to reveal that which is...
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    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    I think you missed how I said what said: "......never was He heretical BY the scriptures." The Jews thought Jesus to be heretical TO the scriptures, according to "the wisdom of men". However, Jesus having "the power of God" the Father within Him, was revealing the thoughts of what God Himself...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Evidently you don't understand what Jesus was saying to the Jews. [39] For I say unto you [Jews/Israel], Ye shall not see/perceive me henceforth, till ye [Jews] shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Why should the Jews call "born again Christians" "blessed"? Only born...
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    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    In everything That God the Father said and did through Jesus, He was showing the Jews what the soon to be Age of Grace was all about through His Holy Spirit. The Jews were not worshipping God, but rather they were worshipping the words of the Law. It's still going on today, by those Christians...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Yes, salvation was to Israel of faith, in their belief of the "Promise to come" (Jesus), for those who lived under the OC, WHEN it was in force and operative. They are now shown as permanently saved by the Gift of God's Holy Spirit given to each one, who were under the altar (of remembrance)...
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    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    Jesus was heretical to the Religions of the Jews, but never was He heretical by the scriptures!! The same is being said against born again Christians today, who can't help but interpret the scriptures through "the mind of Christ that is within them". 1 Cor. 2:5, 16
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    And here is THAT judgment, which is still going on, as long as God's Grace IS ACTIVE THROUGH HAVING FAITH IN JESUS. Matt.23 [39] For I say unto you [Jews/Israel], Ye shall not see/perceive me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Why should the Jews...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    You don't get it. There are no more promises for or to Israel, except that they come to "the judgment seat of Christ" NOW, UNDER the Grace of God for ALL people. John 3:18. The Jews/Israel are no longer any kind of a special people to God, over and above any Gentile. Except for the Promise...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Lol, I clearly do point to the Israel OF FAITH, being that of Malachi 3:16, and the literal description Rev. 7:4-8, showing that the symbolic 144,000 are OF the tribes of Israel, and not Gentiles. That is NOT a future situation, under the NC. For today, ever since Pentecost, ALL are declared...
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    The World will discover, that the mark was already taken - Jesus revealed the mark on the cross, but did not boast (reminisce with me)

    I don't care for what and how you are translating it from the scholarly "wisdom of men", because it is ONLY "by/through the mind of Christ within us", that gives us HIS understanding. You are still lacking understanding about all of 1 Cor. 2. People fall away from the "religious" churches...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    In order for you, and all of like mind, to hold on to your false belief about a special time for the Jews, there is one HUGE pillar of argument that is purposely being ignored, and that is Rom. 10:12. Who are they, who are of the "great multitude"? All Saints, both Jew and Gentile, who have...
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    To be or not to be Catholic

    Amen! 1 Cor. 2:5 [5] That your faith should NOT stand in the wisdom of men [church-ianity], but in the power of God.
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    To be or not to be Catholic

    But, as God already knows, there are many that ignore, neglect and even refuse to come to the judgment seat of Christ, and do die in their sins. BTW, where is the judgment seat of Christ? It's right here, and it's right now, in John 3:18. [18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Cont'd from my post #68:  What we see in the verses of Revelation above, is that of Malachi 3:16, having been also fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost. Those who were written in the book of "Remembrance" have been given the Gift of Jesus' Holy Spirit, having the Father within Himself, and...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Hi Davy, I agree with much of what you say. In my understanding, I am not trying to divert from what you say, but rather to help all to perceive that our God, through our Savior the Lord Jesus, thinks and speaks at all times, in the past, present and future, all at the same time. Isa. 55:8-9...