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IBeMe... I appreciate your post, but I'm not going to respond further on whether Lucifer or the King of Tyre was Satan. It's not the topic of this post. I only commented because I don't believe such things and thus, I think the scripture given in the OP doesn't even apply. Overall, I...

Ok, thanks for the conversation, Floyd. I'm sure we do agree on many things.

To claim the free will is at the centre of the Bible is a matter of opinion. There is freedom in the Bible, and there are men and women making choices in the Bible, but not all the time. But one thing about the Bible, God's will always wins out, even if it opposes man's will. There are...

My information on Satan is from the Bible. Plain and simple. I don't mind Bible studies, commentaries and strong dictionary meanings, but they should not be used to counter what the Bible says. I looked up one of your subjects (Satan's origin) and it's pretty far fetched in connecting...

I certainly don't have anything against and uplifting sermon as we all need them from time to time. I don't have anything against a preacher making money by preaching or writing books, so that's not a problem with me either. The problem I have is that all I've ever seen him preach is...

You brought up three points of scripture: 1. Romans 13; 2. Isa 14:10 (by referring to Satan as Lucifer) and 3. Eze 28. I stand by my assertations that your basis is wrong to start with on these points. I cannot these points in a discussion on whether "evil earthly governments" is evidence...

Here's what I find interesting: "Lucifer is not satan. Ok, this is where I say goodbye. Nice talking to you." Well, welcome back! I thought you were saying goodbye and weren't going to continue the conversation. Nice to see you still think of me as a troll. here's the thing: 1. Romans 13...

Thanks!!!

I wish I could help you with this, because I'd like a copy too. There are times when I want/need to read it without the verse divisions. When that happens about the best I can do is go to on online source, copy and paste it into microsoft word and then edit out the numbers and try to put it in...

Yea!!! I agree!

It's tough for me to comment on this because I didn't hear the sermon, nor do I know the circumstances on why he said it. It seems to me that without grace, we are not only in danger of hell-fire.... It's gonna come! Grace on the other hand, though faith is the way out. So can we abuse grace...

For your first request, no. I can't clarify why most interpretations use "governing authorities". You'd have to ask them. I can give you reasons I think they do, or I can give you reasons why I think it is talking about the ministry (which comes down to the fact that 3 times it clarifies that...

There are a couple of problems with this. First, Romans 13:1-8 are not talking about government leaders. They are talking about the ministry: in other words, its talking about following the leadership of the Church. Now, in other epistles, Paul (and I think Peter as well) does talk about...

The bottom line is that there is plenty of references to using musical intruments in the NT. In Luke 15:25 Jesus descibes in a parable "music and dancing". The definition of "music" includes and allows instruments. In Eph 5:19, Col 3:16 and Jas 5:13 we are told to sing and perform psalms...

I'd like to say it saddens me that you don't apply logic to this situation, Ernest. I'd like to say that, but I really don't care. Your loss that you can't use music to praise the Lord, not mine. Your reasoning is illogical and does not prove your point. Yet it is no concern to me. And once...

The problem is Secondhand Lion is that he did say.... he said it in the OT MANY times. Some of the folks here, however, feel he changed his mind in the NT, which he never said he did. In fact, it's a falsehood that God doesn't approve of musical instruments in the NT. 1. Jesus mentions them...

Try applying a little common sense here. When Jesus said that it does not mean you can blindly apply the meaning of the word "law" to mean "OT" in every case. If so, when Jesus said, "The law and the prophets were until John" (Luke 16:16) he meant the law of Moses and the prophets of the OT...

Not everything in the OT was law. The book of Psalms had elements of the Law, but it was not the Law. So, animal sacrifice was in the Law, but musical instruments was not. My goodness! That should be so simple it shouldn't need explaining! Now, to say, "Well, we are just told to sing, not...

The only way to try the spirits is by the Word.

Williemac and Justaname: I understand what Ernest is trying to get accross, though I'm not agreeing with him. I'd like to ask you two some questions about his original post. Have a look at the first sentance of his post: Ernest T Bass wrote: "It takes obedient works of belief, repentance...