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In terms of the context of 1 Corinthians 15:20-23, only Christ himself is said to be the firstfruits. It should say "firstfruit" since it's only Him. He is the firstfruit of the dead in Christ. It's not saying they are the firstfruits. It's saying Christ is the firstfruit(s) of those who slept...

LOL. So, would you refer to the Israel that Paul referenced in Romans 9:6-8 of which not all who physically descend from the physical nation of Israel are part and which consists of the children of God and of the promise who are counted as Abraham's seed as "Metaphorical Israel"? Paul called it...

If you want to call the Israel that we are part of metaphorical, so be it, but you can't deny the existence of an Israel that has existed during the New Testament consisting of those who are the children of God and of the promise who are counted as Abraham's seed (Romans 9:6-8).

Of course they don't. Christ's resurrection was the first resurrection and the only ones who spiritually have part in His resurrection are believers (Ephesians 2:4-6, Colossians 2:12-13, Romans 6:9-11, etc.). Do you understand that Acts 26:23 says that Christ's resurrection itself was the first...

Do you not think that the goats represent those whose names are not written in the book of life? How can the following two verses not be describing the same thing? They clearly are. Matthew 25:41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting...

It means that Christ's bodily resurrection was the first resurrection. As the text says. No other resurrection but His is the first resurrection. His resurrection unto bodily immortality was first and made it possible for the dead in Christ to also be bodily resurrected at His second coming.

Paul gave the order of resurrections unto bodily immortality and listed Christ's resurrection first in order with the resurrection of the dead in Christ at His second coming being second in order. 1 Corinthians 15:20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those...

He is telling all of those truths. Do you acknowledge that the "only one first resurrection" is Christ's bodily resurrection because it was the first unto bodily immortality and, without it, we would have no hope of eternal life? Did you know that the Greek words protos (first) and anastasis...

You can't be serious here. You are actually complaining that Amil doesn't have the second most important resurrection being referenced in Revelation 20 while Premil doesn't have the MOST important resurrection being referenced in Revelation 20? Using your logic, John must have thought the...

WOW!!! Are you even trying to understand what is written in scripture? What Israel are you talking about? The Israel of which not all who descended from the physical nation of Israel most certainly HAS EXISTED DURING THE NEW TESTAMENT!!! To deny that would be like denying that the children of...

If Israel did not exist during the New Testament time period, then how do you interpret the following passage that refers to an Israel that has existed during the entire New Testament time period, but not all who physically descend from the physical nation of Israel are part of it? Romans 9:6...

Why are you not addressing what Ephesians 2:11-22 clearly indicates? Paul said that Gentiles were formerly excluded from citizenship in the commonwealth of Israel but are now fellow citizens because of the blood of Christ. Fellow citizens of the commonwealth of Israel. You are missing that there...

Yes, that is true. They believe what they want to believe. You can show them that 1 + 1 = 2, but they want to believe 1 + 1 = 11 instead no matter how much evidence is presented to show that 1 + 1 = 2. Agree. It's unbelievable to me for anyone to be so stubborn that they will just ignore the...

Isn't it funny how the self-proclaimed literalists suddenly don't interpret scripture so literally anymore when it doesn't agree with their doctrine. Yet, we (amils) get accused of spiritualizing everything, which is nothing more than a false accusation.

Paul said Gentile believers were once excluded from citizenship in the commonwealth of Israel, but are "now fellow citizens" with Jewish believers because of the blood of Christ. Fellow citizens of what? The commonwealth of Israel. Spiritual Israel. The Israel of God. Whatever you want to call...

Agree. Paul was very explicit about this in Ephesians 2, but dispensationalists still don't get it. They like to pride themselves on taking scripture literally "as written", but when it comes to passages like Ephesians 2:11-22 they suddenly don't stick to their normal biblical hermeneutic. How...

Can you answer his question? Which Israel is it that Gentile believers were formerly excluded from and not citizens of that were brought near and made fellow citizens of by the blood of Christ? Ephesians 2:11 Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision...

So, do you believe the following verse describes what will happen when the rapture occurs? 2 Thessalonians 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

Because that would be consistent with how the book of Revelation is written. It only makes sense that both are spiritual or both are physical. The book of Revelation is primarily a book about spiritual truths and realities that are described symbolically. Tell me your understanding of the mark...

This is why pre-trib is a terrible doctrine. It encourages people to fear the things that many Christians have been through over the past almost 2,000 years while wanting to avoid going through any kind of tribulation. So, what will they do when they do experience tribulation? Will they denounce...