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  1. Grailhunter

    Things that were changed in Christian Bible translations

    Nope LOL Never said the Jews did not know about Satan just do not believe he is a devil. And the pagans do not think Pan is a devil.
  2. Grailhunter

    Things that were changed in Christian Bible translations

    Yes even if they did not believe in the devil knowledge of him was there. But this topic does not come up in the Old Testament. Even in pagan religions the notion of a devil and hell was alien.
  3. Grailhunter

    Things that were changed in Christian Bible translations

    Your facts are wrong. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/satan
  4. Grailhunter

    Things that were changed in Christian Bible translations

    Incorrct again. See post 1
  5. Grailhunter

    Things that were changed in Christian Bible translations

    Again the Jews then and today do not beleive in a hell or the devil. The devil and hell was new information for the New Testament. See post 1
  6. Grailhunter

    Things that were changed in Christian Bible translations

    Incorrect. Look it up. The figure of Satan, or “the satan” (Hebrew: הַשָּׂטָן), appears in the Hebrew Bible primarily as an accuser or adversary, rather than the fully developed devil figure seen in later Christian theology. The term “satan” is derived from a Hebrew verb meaning “to obstruct” or...
  7. Grailhunter

    Things that were changed in Christian Bible translations

    Old Testament names a lot of times have descriptive meanings. For example the name Miriam from the verb מרה (mara) means to be rebellious or disobedient:. Which was actually the name of Christ's mother and translators found that offensive so they changed it to Mary. Like wise Satan can mean...
  8. Grailhunter

    Things that were changed in Christian Bible translations

    Read post 7 I think you will get it. At one time Satan was an "important angel" Being the leader of angels that is why some consider him as an archangel. But then there was the fall....not defined in the Bible when that occurred. But in the New Testament Satan is definitely defined as a devil.
  9. Grailhunter

    Things that were changed in Christian Bible translations

    I did not say that Satan is not a real being. I am saying Satan is not defined as a devil in the Old Testament. So the Jews do not believe in a devil. The word Satan mostly appears in the Old Testament in the book of Job. Where he appears in the Court of God to report on righteousness. Now when...
  10. Grailhunter

    Things that were changed in Christian Bible translations

    The Garden east of Eden The phrase “Garden and Eden” does not actually appear in the original scriptures, or at least the oldest ones available. They replaced the phrase “the Paradise of Delights" with the phrase “Garden of Eden.” This is not new information, it has been known for a while. In...
  11. Grailhunter

    Things that were changed in Christian Bible translations

    The Strong’s is great but in this case wrong. The Jews do not believe in the Devil because the Devil is never defined in the Old Testament. The word/name Satan mostly appears in Job and there Satan seems to have a cordial relationship with Yahweh where he is the judge of righteousness. Still...
  12. Grailhunter

    Things that were changed in Christian Bible translations

    The Garden of Eden….actually Paradise of Delights. Why was it changed? Maybe because Adam and Eve were naked Paradise of Delights seemed too sensual? And Garden of Eden implied work? The words Satan or devil does not appear in Genesis. And what Adam and Eve ate was called fruit not an apple...
  13. Grailhunter

    Did the Serpent deceive A&E by lying, or by telling the truth?

    Some things to consider….. The creation stories bring up some questions…. There are two creation stories that do not match. Why? The correct translation for the Garden of Eden is Paradise of Delights. An intelligent talking serpent? That does not appear anywhere else in the Bible. Were Adam and...
  14. Grailhunter

    Question: 1 Corinthians 15:3-6

    I did not say that there were not differing opinions out there. And opinions are OK. But I was referring to scriptural specifics ….details. And the word Hell cannot be in the actual scriptures. No Greek or Hebrew equivalent. Which is one of the reasons for the confusion in the New...
  15. Grailhunter

    Question: 1 Corinthians 15:3-6

    NotTheRock….congrats on being knowledgeable of the scriptures. But for some questions it may not give definitive answers. Some things we may not be able to comprehend. The spirit world, Heaven, Hell, and your question that alludes to the state we are in after our physical body dies. In your...
  16. Grailhunter

    Does it matter what you believe?

    And is it a sin if you believe in OSAS or Universalism or Calvinism? Strangely enough it is more important what you do than what you believe. No matter what we believe it not going to be about it all. There is a lot about God and Heaven and Hell that we are not going to be able to comprehend so...
  17. Grailhunter

    IF YOU BELIEVE WE CAN LOSE OUR SALVATION, PLEASE GIVE ME THE VERSE/VERSES THAT MAKE YOU BELIEVE THIS.

    2nd Corinthians :5:10: For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, So nothing Christ said was for Christians? Another evil arguing against morality. Look at the effort put into saying sinning is the way of Christianity.
  18. Grailhunter

    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    LOL How can you be arguing with me when I just gave you scripture? You want more? Or will you hate that too. What you believe is wrong, evil, and just plain does not make any sense. Yeshua is not the God of immorality. And Heaven is not the destination of the immoral. Remember to tell them to...
  19. Grailhunter

    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    I just gave you scriptures….Are you arguing with God or the Bible? Grace is not a license to sin... 2nd Corinthians :5:10: For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad...