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So, as I asked, what is the 'human belief' they call 'faith'? Stranger

What is the 'human belief' they call 'faith'? Stranger

Are they classified as a hate group? If so, who made the classification? Southern Poverty Law Center? That is the biggest hate group in America. Do you support them? Ummm. What does that make you? Stranger

Unbelieving Israel is not Israel. But believing Israel is Israel. And will be both physical and spiritual. Just as the Church will also be physical and spiritual. Just different bodies of believers. Stranger

That is not the point. I want to see the one you are using. Stranger

Remember to give the Scripture reference when you make statements concerning a certain Scripture. I never said the Church was not a priesthood also. It is. It just isn't the same body as Israel. Stranger

Jesus is an Israelite, and King of the Jews. See again post (#41). Different actions by the Holy Spirit is why Israel cannot be the Body of Christ. Stranger

Exactly right. Both believing Jew and Gentile today make up the Church. That doesn't make the Church Israel. Stranger

There is one Body of Christ, yes, and that is the Church. And Israel is not the Church. She was and will be a different body. See my post (#41) Stranger

This has nothing to do with there being different bodies of believers Stranger

Faith is not the issue here. I never said Old Testament believers didn't have faith. We are talking about the operation of the Holy Spirit and how it worked distinct different between Israel and the Church. And the reason is because they were separate bodies of believers. Stranger

You made the statement, you need to back it up. Stranger

Just because you say it doesn't make it so. Israel is not the Body of Christ. See again post (#41). Stranger

The dictionaries say what are? For clarity you should repeat what was said at least. What does the dictionary say? Give a quote and reverence. Stranger

If your talking about the true Church, yes. But that is the same with Israel in the Old Testament. The true Israel is made up of only believers. The visible church today is full of non-believers. Stranger

You simply ignored what I said and continue with methodical repetition. The faith that is a fruit of the Holy Spirit, that you are talking about, which you quoted to prove in (Gal. 5:22) is the faith of the Charismatic gifts. There is a difference in the function of the Holy Spirit in the...

Yes, and one congregation is Israel, and one is the Church, and one is between Adam and Moses, and one is the Tribulation saints. The Gospel of the Kingdom is not the Gospel of Grace which the Church preaches. Stranger

(Is. 48:16) Stranger

GodsGrace You surrender the Deity of Jesus Christ to give a 'like' to a false teacher, gadr perets, because he agrees with your 'loss of salvation'? I never did like the saying, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Stranger

Go back and reread. I am not going to do the work for you. I have presented it many times because you are so hard headed. I have presented the Scriptural proof. Make sure you hold your breath waiting for my apology. Stranger