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Ummmm....Yup Ronald, that is why I said; If we didn't conform to the teachings of the Apostles we won't be saved. What were the teachings of the Apostles Ronald? They were the teachings of Jesus. What did Jesus say about the Apostle Ronald? He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despises...

Go in peace.....

Lovely character you have....lovely! :rolleyes: I see I have gotten under your skin! I apologize. I will leave you alone so you can have peace.

Lol...another condescending statement. Calling me a gnat! Once again...your (lack of) character is revealed. I am attempting to do your thinking? That makes no sense. You think! You write down what you think! And then I respond with what I think......soooo how am I attempting to do your...

Thanks amadeus, Is your position in line with the teachings of Christ? You think it is. And there in lies the problem.....YOUR pride in your position on all these things. You think that Scripture allows each individual Christian to have their own position on all of these things that you and I...

Hey bbyrd, It appears you are referring to 1 Peter 2? So bbyrd, in vs8 it says; They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do. Who's word is being disobeyed bbyrd? If, as your theory goes, The Church is "not some organization" then that means that each individual...

Nope, Marymog does not make up her own facts. Marymog repeats the authoritative teachings of The Church. Who's teachings due you repeat?

Galatians 6:3: For if those who are nothing think they are something, they deceive themselves.

You always keep me laughing kiddo. You are condesending.....That makes you feel superior to others....That has nothing to do with my character kiddo.

Protestant defined: a Christian not of a Catholic or Eastern church So, are you a Protestant? Do you repeat the teachings of Protestant men or the teachings of Catholic men? The fact is that you repeat the teaching of Protestant men. ;) Keeping it real with facts.....Mary:rolleyes:

So you study Catholic men and repeat what they have taught? You don't! You repeat what Protestant men teach sooooo it's not a lie kiddo.

Ah, I now see your line of thinking. Very witty! :rolleyes: I don't understand why you had to be so condescending with your last statement. I suspect that is just part of your character!

I thought the Libertarians were always right?

OK...I don't have it right!! But you are not going to tell me were I got it wrong? I am trying to have a discussion with you. You have rejected me. Let the record show that YOU ended this discussion even though in post #459 you asked me: You certainly do not want any open two-way discussion...

Well, actually amadeus, I just asked you a question based on your own admittance and your own words. If my question is "nit picking" and causes you to dodge my question and not give an answer to my legitimate question.... then so be it. You are the one that said some "are following the wrong...

And asking a question to answer a question is NOT conducive to an open two-way discussion. But, I will play your game! :rolleyes: The answer to your question: Must we do what Scripture tells us to do? Is confession in Scripture? Mary

Lol...Yes, I do want an open two-way discussion. That is why I don't do like you do; Answer questions with a question. THAT is not conducive to and open discussion.

Thanks Ronald. Logically and according to Scripture we "must conform on salvific issues". Right? Isn't that what Jesus and the Apostles taught? :)If we didn't conform to the teachings of the Apostles we won't be saved. Jesus said this about the Apostles: He that heareth you heareth me; and he...

Time for a bible lesson Taken. :rolleyes: As you know (or actually probably don't know) Timothy and Titus are pastoral letters. That means those instructions (Scripture is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness) are for pastors. For you see when Protestant men...

My prediction came true, I knew you wouldn't.;) Thank you....I am always right. Keeping it real....Mary