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So also "could" you: EB previously stated: "If angels can appear physically in human form, who says that Jesus, who dwelt within the Father's Glory of Himself, couldn't appear as an angel?";)

I am suggesting that the verse is left open to interpretation by assumption. Yes, God did make clothes for them of animal skins for them to wear, but it doesn't literally say that HE Himself clothed them, or that anyone else clothed them. Your interpretation would [read]: Genesis 3:21 The Lord...

A&E were not divine. They were created as living souls- (nephesh-animal life), being innocent with free will. They did not yet have the knowledge of evil OR GOOD, until they exercised their God given ability to choose. Without the saving God's Grace, through faith in Jesus, there is no form of...

Before I get into "who drove A&E from the garden", let's go back a little to Gen. 3:7-12, and examine the conversation between Adam and God. It is loaded with our [assumptions of experiences]. [7] And the eyes of them both were opened [their new found self consciousness of being aware of...

The pharisaical Jews had a down fall, they also took every word of the scriptures as being literal. Hence they missed the day of their visitation of the Messiah.

So it's true, you do see the garden of Eden as an "orchard" of literal fruit trees. OK, that's fine, but how were any of the supposed real fruit of the two trees able to impart "the knowledge of good and evil", or that of "eternal life"? My guidance on this, is that neither of the two trees of...

For the sake of repetition, I don't believe in the trinity doctrine. I adhere to an Amillennial- Binitarian view point, of which is indeed scriptural and spiritual, but contrary to most professing christians who are trinitarians, as well as those who view Jesus as having no pre-existence at...

Your answer denies scripture, and the testimony of Jesus' own words. Man became a living soul. He didn't receive a living soul, of which many falsely believe is eternal of itself.

He who was to be manifested in the world as "the Lamb OF God" was kept secret until the precise time of when God was going to send to us the "good news" aka the Gospel, who is Christ Himself. Prior to that, in the OT, Jesus was seen, but was incognito as being an angel, typically the Angel of...

Yes, I agree with that. The overall focus of his prayer was that God the Father, himself and that we may be one as they are. Back to the point I was making. Jesus revealed that he himself alone had a glorious existence with his Father BEFORE the world was created. John 17:5.....the glory which...

It's far from being sad for me, because I don't operate with only the text through scholarly wisdom. John 16 [13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth ["I am...the truth..."], is come, he will guide you into ALL truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall...

I am really not caring for this new format for this forum. It's becoming more of a bother, just to get something together for to post. Ughhh!:( I perceive that my activity will probably become less and less.

So, was Jesus telling lies in his prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane?

Yes, Jesus is not God the Father. As Jesus said, the Father was greater than he. However Jesus longed to be restored to the glory that HE ONCE HAD with the Father, before the world was. John 17[5] And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before...

You are coming at me assuming that I am a Trinitarian, when I am not. I adhere to an Amillennial-Binitarian view. You didn't hear my words: By the Spirit of Jesus, having God the Father dwelling within Him, it fully describes the Godhead of God the Father and His Son together, as being One IN...

Are you saying that Jesus was not Spirit with His Father, before the world was?

So then, if one sees the Tree of Life in Revelation 2:7 and 22:2,14, it's a literal fruit tree? Rev. 2 [7] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. Rev...

Same here. Indent? Nope, don't know how to do that here. What I use to do, and now most likely will revert back to it, I would copy the post I am replying to, repost it in the reply box, and then number them, as to how I would want to reply to each point made by the poster. I then would number...

Same here. What I use to do, and now most likely revert back to it, I would copy the post I am replying to, repost it in the reply box, and then number them, as to how I would want to reply to each point made by the poster. I then would number my replies in kind in the same reply box. That way...

Oops, sorry! still trying to get use to this new format of posting. Can't say that I care for it at the moment either. I'm still adjusting. I meant my post to be for you, but I mis referenced the new thread by "F2F" as being yours I edited the necessary correction in post #417 Thanks, EB