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    A Form of godliness

    The context of 2 Timothy 3:5 is very important. TRUE godliness, has it's origin in God Himself. Therefore any other form of godliness apart from His, is CORRUPTION. The only way to receive His Godliness is through the indwelling Holy Spirit of Jesus and God the Father. They TOGETHER are...
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    A Form of godliness

    It's sad that you don't include the context scripture in reference of 2 Timothy 3:5. If you did, you would immediately understand how it is that people will have a form of godliness. [1] This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. [2] For men shall be lovers of their own...
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    The Year 2030: Utopia or Urban Nightmare?

    Though there have been many "date setters" out there and still are, some here may recall that the "Millerites", now the Seventh Day Adventist church, went through such a situation in 1843 with William Miller, a former Baptist leading them through a false and failed belief that the Lord was going...
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    Does God give us faith, or do we give God faith?

    Then you better inform Jesus that he has got it all wrong. John 6[28] Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work [do] the works of God? [29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God [that you should do], that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. Believing in...
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    OSAS is now teaching faith with works, and not faith alone.

    Yes, in all that you have said, the following KJV scriptures attest to the reality of our situation of "having this [His] treasure in earthen vessels", being that of our mortal and corruptible bodies (2 Corinthians 4:7), which is also revealed in us of Him making us to be "par-takers of the...
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    Real believers don't want to talk nor hear anything negative about sinning

    Yes, unsaved sinners DO need to hear and heed the warning, that unless they repent TOWARDS the LORD God the Father, through faith in The Lord Jesus, they remain under the condemnation of God's judgment of eternal death. KJV John 3:18. As for Born Again Christians, they are in need of...
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    Real believers don't want to talk nor hear anything negative about sinning

    A petrified "sin tracker" who thinks about sin, talks about sin, and looks for sin to avoid, all the day long, never realizing the truth of John 1[29] The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb OF God, which taketh away the sin of the world. John 8[36] IF the Son...
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    If Jesus was the One who took away sins from the world?

    That remnant (symbolic 144 000) CAME out of OC. Israel!! They are seen in Revelation 6:9-11. They are they who had faith in the Messiah to come. Simeon in Luke 2:25-35 was one of them. All Jews being saved since Pentecost, are of the Great Multitude. Why do I say that? Because under the NC in...
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    If Jesus was the One who took away sins from the world?

    Absolutely NOT!! By now, you should be seeing how much we have in common for understanding. Maybe not exactly, but close enough to discuss, if we stay open minded. If you want to close that door, which in your last post it looks like you are, don't worry, I am checking in on what you say every...
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    If Jesus was the One who took away sins from the world?

    I'm talking Revelation and Daniel here. For you to accept 70Ad. being the end of Israel, surely you must have referenced Daniel and Revelation.
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    If Jesus was the One who took away sins from the world?

    The number 144,000 is symbolic of completion. God who is love, worked with the free wills of men in Israel, helping them to "reason with Him", so that they would repent towards Him. If no more came to repentance in a tribe, then that would be the number of completion that came to Him from that...
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    If Jesus was the One who took away sins from the world?

    The number 144,000 is symbolic. Are you thinking that God had a cut off point of 12,000, just because it's a nice even number? And therefore, out each tribe of Israel, God limited how many of the faithful of Israel were allowed in, so that it would be exactly equal to144,000? Of course it...
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    If Jesus was the One who took away sins from the world?

    I Agree 100%, Amen!! However, ALL of Israel who were of faith, PRIOR to Jesus' resurrection and Ascension, of His coming as the Promised One, have been saved/sealed also by God's Holy Spirit, on the Day of Pentecost, until the Day of Redemption. Revelation 6:9-11 and Revelation 7:4-8. Edit...
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    If Jesus was the One who took away sins from the world?

    "There can always be more than one lie, but there can never be more than one truth"- Earburner. And that certainly applies to who the 144,000 were, and in what age of dispensation they had lived in. They were all of Israel, who had died in faith, beginning with Abraham upto Jesus' resurrection...
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    If Jesus was the One who took away sins from the world?

    Yes, it's clear to me that the symbolic 144,000 are of Israel and no one else. Hence my reference of Malachi 3:16 and Revelation 6:9-11. Edit: the 144,000 are of Israel who had died BEFORE Jesus' first appearance in the flesh.
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    If Jesus was the One who took away sins from the world?

    How can you say that, when I gave the scriptures revealing that He HAS COME?? You simply didn't digest what KJV John 14:18 and 23 says: .[18] I will not leave you comfortless: I will COME to you. [23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will...
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    If Jesus was the One who took away sins from the world?

    It indeed is relevant, so that you may see and understand that ever since Jesus' Ascension into Heaven, and the giving of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, God the Father through His Son, HAS BEEN COMING to each and everyone of us (John 14:18) on a personal level (John 14:23, Revelation 3:20)...
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    If Jesus was the One who took away sins from the world?

    ln your belief system, are you understanding the comparative association between KJV Malachi 3:16 and Revelation 6:9-11? If you do, then you should agree that none of them were bodily resurrected, but were given the Gift of Christ's Spirit, and then were told that they were to rest until their...
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    If Jesus was the One who took away sins from the world?

    I can understand why and how you have come to believe that 70 AD. was the time when Jesus and the holy angels were revealed from heaven, the saints were glorified, the disobedient Jews were destroyed, and the day in which all of that took place. The Apostles did believe that His return could...
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    If Jesus was the One who took away sins from the world?

    Please compare all the scriptures below with KJV Luke 17:29-30, and you will find that when the Lord Jesus is REVEALED from Heaven, salvation and destruction will be a simultaneous event. Now, from what I understand, it is an undeniable fact that when Lot did leave Sodom in the same day of his...