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Soooooo Ferris, your theory is that the "gifted believers" that are "responsible for the flock" who have "authority to see to it that unrepentant hypocrites are expelled from a congregation" "are not all unified in a single body of leadership at this time in church history"!!! And that...

Nope, that's not a problem. Jesus started a church that has authority over it's members. It has organizaton, heiarchy etc. You reject that. I don't AND Christianity hasn't rejected that for 2,000 years. For you see first there was Christ as the teacher of the Truth and the Apostles were his...

I completly udnerstand your theory that The Church is invisible and that it is made up of "real believers interspersed throughout the religious organizations of the world". Scripture doesnt' support your theory. Scripture makes it clear that there are church elders who are in charge of our...

The Magisterium of The Church is the "who" in Matthew 18:17. The term magisterium is based on the Latin word for “teacher” (magister). It refers to the teaching authority which Christ has given to the Church with the Apostles being the first magisterium's. The term refers to the authority...

Another word game. Can you just answer the question: What does what you have written have to do with what we are talking about?

Wrong again. It is the magisterium that is guided by the Holy Spirit into the Truth. Not every Priest. Now I see why you dislike The Church so much. You have believed the lies that have been told to you.

I'm glad you feel like you are being led by the Holy Spirit into the Truth. Many men have thought the same thing but yet they all disagree with each other. So either the Holy Spirit is confused or those men, including yourself, are confused.

SOME of the Jews in Jesus day did get it right. They chose Jesus after they studied the Torah and accepted Pauls oral tradition about Jesus. Remember the Bereans and Theselonians? The Bereans got it right; the Thessalonians didn't. They both used the same Scripture (what we now call the OT) and...

I only instruct what the pillar and foundation of truth teaches. Who is the pillar and foundation of truth post?

Hi post, Yup, He is head of The Church. What about Matthew 16:18? Who does he say he will build The Church upon? What is The Church in Matthew 18:17 and 1 Timothy 3:15? You are subject to your own authority if you are not subject to an "earthly organization". What do you do when two of the...

I don't understand your question....can you rephrase it.

The Church is the "who": Matthew 18:17

So you can belong to The Church spoken of in Scripture that is the pillar and foundaton of truth and decides who is to be treated as a pagan or tax collector. The church that Christ started.

You need yourself to tell you if you are hearing the truth or not.....Don't you? Sooooo you do need someone. You rely on you. I rely on The Church which is the pillar and foundation of truth and decides who is to be treated as a pagan or tax collector.....Just like Scripture says. You even...

Plain to WHO??? What is plain to me is different than what is plain to you or Joe or Jane or Mike or Lois or the Catholic church or the Baptist churc or the Mormon church. Who decides what are the plain words of the Bible and who is led by the Spirit? YOU?

Yes, it is a word game. What does what you have written have to do with what we are talking about?

Oh goodness...More word games :( Sooooooo what you are saying is that we only know what we think we know and what we think we know might be right or it might be wrong but we really don't know......You might know more than me but I might know more than you but we really don't know because only...

Oh goodness....soooooooooooooooooooo you think that EVERY believer has the anointing of the Holy Spirit with them to know when what they are hearing is truth??? Right? Isn't that what you are saying??? That puts you in a prediciment: Your truth is different than my truth. The Catholic churches...

EG, I believe 'my church got it right' because I have studied my Christian history. That history has led me to The Church. If my church didn't get it right then which one did???? Curious Mary