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I couldn't say they aren't Christian for not understanding that doctrine--I've heard people who believe in Jesus (especially myself) say plenty of silly things before. God is "the only wise King". If He makes us know, we can know. We should thank God for the gift of eternal life, knowing Him...

I'm working through it through prayer--I highly recommend entrusting your lives to God, He's faithful, He comes through with solutions you could NEVER find on your own! The Church is also, contrary to what I'd thought, integral--not because they have precise answers, but because they know God...

I would like to agree with you, but I also believe that, in addition to "obedience", the tenor of the relationship in which the "obedience" takes place matters--both a slave and a son "serve", but we are not to have a slave-master relationship, unto fear, but a son-father relationship, unto...

Had you kept reading, you'd've happened upon my post where I said that praying had resulted in my having found many answers. So, I'm not as confused as I was, though I don't claim to understand to the level I want, but, again, I'm not accusing anyone who disagrees with what God has shown me of...

You don't dictate the topic here. I've already disproven all your other nonsense, so you jump to another topic. Not interested. Go make your own thread if you have information you're interested in disseminating. This isn't the place. Not saying anyone who disagrees with the answers God has...

No, actually, this isn't your thread--I'm not interested in your empty speculation on these topics. I'm interested in the topics I challenge you on, but you are finding it difficult to stay on topic (eg, I never mentioned Heb 10, but you "answered" that). Since you're so ready to talk about...

To understand Paul, it makes more sense to use Paul's ideas--eg, "the work of God is to believe", John's words, might get someone confused if they tried to use a "Pauline lexicon" to understand them.

I never mentioned Heb 10, so all of this is irrelevant. Also, you said believers couldn't fall away, now you say they can (if they commit the unpardonable sin). How can you live with such cognitive dissonance?

LOL Paul doesn't discuss the lake of fire Maybe the difference he's just discussing God's kindness

(Not expecting an answer, per se, just sharing some thoughts I get when reading these passages.) Isn't the reason why "there is no condemnation" for those "in Christ" because they're not mastered by sin (Ro 6:14) as the Jew "in the flesh" (Christians are "not in the flesh, but in the spirit"...

I have wondered at the meaning of "not imputed", here, because if it means it isn't "counted", why would it matter, since "death reigned", anyway? I have wondered if it meant "men's sins were not transgressions", since they didn't know better (unlike Adam and those who received the Law of...

That is what I gathered. "You were grafted in by faith, but can also be cut off for unbelief" (Ro 11:17-23)-- as with the Galatians, who deserted God (Gal 1:6) and were severed from Christ (Gal 5:4) after having believed (Gal 3:1-3). 1 Corinthians 9:27, 10:1-11, which you apparently...

If you construe these things to mean "we can't fall away", we disagree, since Scripture states otherwise, as I have shown. If you acknowledge good works must be done (in partnership with His working in us) to remain in Him, we have no disagreement.

You don't understand the issue. Again and again: eternal life is "in His Son", and by "remaining in Christ" you are continuously supplied His Spirit, but "remaining in Christ" requires "obeying Christ", and that is on two fronts: 1) believe in Christ, and 2) love one another. Since the Ro 14:23...

1. The Word cannot lose anyone who keeps the Word--correct--but many do not keep His Word, but fail to abide in Him (1 Jn 2:28), and, so, that promise doesn't apply to them. 2. You don't need to deny Christ with your mouth, you can do that with your works. Titus 1 16They profess to know God...

1. Actually, it DOES have to do with salvation in Christ. You don't understand how it does, but that doesn't mean it doesn't. Remaining in Christ requires faith in Christ and walking in faith/love (1 Jn 3:23,24). "Faith works by love" (Gal 5:6). The individual "condemned", here, has "sinned" by...

Since you like passages about "foundations" 1 Timothy 6 18They are to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share,19thus storing up treasure for themselves as a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is truly life.

Yep, this refers to people who are doing work for God, but I see that you didn't even bother answering 1 Co 10 LOL because you know you can't. You also fail to understand that people can lose their foundation--eg, with the Galatians, who were "deserting God Who called you in the grace of...

What you don't accept, or understand, because of your anti-Scriptural man made tradition, is that "there is no sin in Him", so "there is no condemnation for those in Christ", but, ipso facto, this "no condemnation" doesn't apply for believers who do not "remain in Him" (1 Jn 2:28), because of...

You plainly reject Scripture, which says you are "condemned" (Ro 14:23). You do not accept Scripture because it threatens your man made tradition.