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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    As I said earlier,Judgment is clearly spelled out in John 3:18. It most surely does say that, and quite emphatically of "when". I have already showed that with what Jesus said in Luke 17:29, but you want to ignore the word "when" in KJV 2 Thessalonians 1 verses 7-9 and in verse 10. It is a...
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    In all that I write, if I don't come out and say it directly, I usually flag it with a "clue", so that people will search deeper than they do, that they may discover it for themselves by God's Spirit. I agree to most of what you are saying, but I don't think you are ready to hear all of it. So...
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    I have no idea as to what bible you are quoting from, but the word "Everyone" is not used in the KJV Bible. First and foremost, Paul is specifically talking to Born Again Christians, about what WE should expect to take place when the Lord appears from the 3rd Heaven, into the 1st heaven, the...
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    Jesus has the capacity to be Spirit and/or physical at will. John.20[19] Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you...
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    Those that are "remaining", are caught up to meet the Lord at His appearance from Heaven. It never says that He descends beyond the clouds in the air.
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    In Mat. 25:31-34, you seem to have neglected verse 41 of your reference. I think that you should spend more time with the parable of the ten virgins. From that, you will (or should) learn what it was the five foolish were lacking. KJV Mat. 25:1-13. The "foolish" never received the extra...
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    If Jesus was to return today, are you saying that everyone on the entire planet would be saved?
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    OK! So, during the thousand years, only Jesus will be immortal. Both Christians and the unsaved will see Jesus reigning on the earth over all. Edit: am I correct, in how you understand your futuristic period of a thousand years? Mortal Christians will be reigning on earth with Jesus, over...
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    Did you know that the cause of Jesus' mortal death on the cross, came about due to the fact that his heart gave out, because there wasn't enough blood supply left in His body? I believe It's called Ischemia. After Jesus' resurrection into NEW immortal Life (not a resuscitation), do you recall...
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    If death shall be no more, that is saying that flesh and blood people will never die. Isn't that saying we shall have immortality?
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    So then, when Jesus returns from Heaven in all His Glory, do you believe that we shall then be changed into the LIKENESS of His immortality?
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    There are ONLY two judgments for man by God the Father, of which He has delivered BOTH into the world. 1. Eternal Death through Adam. 2. Eternal Life through Jesus. Both of His judgments are clearly seen in KJV John 3:18.
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    Have you understood Isaiah 55:8-9? In this world, we are mortal beings, having a beginning and an end. Therefore, between those two points, our fleshly minds can only think and speak, by "linear thinking", being that of the past, and the present. God, in His Eternity, having NO beginning or end...
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    Let me ask you this, before a period of a thousand years, according to your understanding, what will be the sign or demarcation to clearly show that it will have begun?
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    APAK, yes you answered and agreed correctly, that it was Jesus, who is the "he" that is being talked about in Daniel 9:27. "Let scripture define doctrine, and not doctrine define scripture".- Earburner
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    Of course I do believe that. I was simply stating, that at the moment, only Jesus has immortality. However, when He appears from Heaven, we shall BE instantly CHANGED INTO His present likeness. 1Cor.15[52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall...
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    And the point of it all, from your perspective is, another thousand years of human suffering and anguish, under a visible, dictatorial kingdom of God, on a refurbished/remodeled earth, with another Jewish temple building to boot. That sounds strangely synonymous with the present Jewish/Zionist...
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    Please compare how complicated it is, that church-ianity has interpreted it to be, as opposed to how one learns "by His Spirit", "His thoughts and ways". Isaiah 55:8-9, Zechariah 4:6, John 16:13. Death is no more "in that day" of His Glorious return. 1. Redemption of ALL the Saints = no more...
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    ^ KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10 [7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, [8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: [9] Who shall be punished with...
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    The Desecration of the Second Temple.

    ?? I never said or implied that Noah, or anyone is immortal, except Jesus. You have misunderstood what I said concerning what I was pointing to, which I should have referenced. I said: "And after the 2 prophetic days, comes the start of the 3rd prophetic day, our immediate bodily resurrection...