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This is circular. If we have to keep the old law, we have to keep the seventh-day Sabbath. But if we believe in Jesus, we keep the Spirit of the Sabbath - trust in Him. If you want to be under the law, you don't need the Holy Spirit, but you've fallen from grace. So which will it be?

But that doesn't mean that we are still full of sin and unrighteousness inside the tank as some believe who think the blood of Jesus merely covers our sin, not takes it away entirely. I don't think you mean that. 1 John 3:8-9 He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous...

Some are being very obtuse. The gospel is not this hard to understand as some would make it out to be by going backwards to preaching needing to be under the old laws..

The Jews did that, and where did it get them? You and Bob don't understand WHY we are given the Spirit. It is idiotic to say that not being under the law means we can break it. NO! We are given another way to KEEP the righteous requirements of the law. The Spirit. But not by the old method of...

I agree, but don't know if you are agreeing with me or trying to argue. BTW, if we refer to the Ten Commandments, do you require the Scripture text? Why do you need a text for the Law of Liberty? Don't you know our New Testament Law? The law of liberty is liberty from being slaves to sin by the...

What did Jesus preach? Read 1 John 3 carefully. As for "what commandments"? 16 By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. 17 But whoever has this world’s goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from...

It's not important. Not like the posts you don't answer...

I thought that meant he oversaw the building of it.

Huh? 22 And they said, “Cornelius the centurion, a just man, one who fears God and has a good reputation among all the nation of the Jews, was divinely instructed by a holy angel to summon you to his house, and to hear words from you.”

I never read about him. Of course, there are many ways. One is over-tipping.

Abraham believed and acted on God's spoken word to him. Much like when the Holy Spirit speaks to us and we believe and act on a rhema. It produces the gift of faith, which sees the spoken word come to pass.

The are called the laws of liberty in Scripture. Liberty from SIN. John 8:34-36. And how is that? The Holy Spirit. Romans 8 describes it best. (Remember the Ten Commandments are the laws of sin and death. They are also called the ministry of (sin and ) death. 2 For the law of the Spirit of...

But the Ten Commandments are part of the Mosaic Covenant. It is not all sacrifices and feasts that are fulfilled in Christ. Sin, itself, was conquered on the cross. Sin was the whole reason for the law. Do away with sin and the sin nature, and you virtually do away with the need for the law. We...

Scripture says either. Righteousness or holiness. Revelation 22:11. But, I like your idea of inheriting glory. I pointed that out in another thread when it was partially revealed to me through the Spirit, just not fully. What scriptures do you have that supports there is a difference? I'd like...

We obey the eternal laws of God through the Spirit. They are the laws of righteousness - "To love God with all your heart, mind and strength, and your neighbor as yourself. And "by the Spirit" I mean from being born again with a NEW NATURE that is empowered by the Spirit.

The Ten Commandments doesn't require love to fulfill them, just willpower, but from a sinful nature. That is why the Ten Commandments as a way to fulfill righteousness failed.

I would say "saved" in the sense of having obtained eternal life, even if they first must die, physically. My question remains.

Jesus lived under the Law, but came to introduce a new way to fulfill the righteous requirements of the Law. Matthew 5 contrasts the two ways. "...But i say to you,..." The old way was the Ten Commandments - the ministry of sin and death. The new way is through the Spirit, and is far superior...

I agree, but is the first person really born again? The Church is overflowing with this type of lukewarm Christian. If they do not have the Spirit of Christ to be like Him, are they really saved?

Do you honestly believe we see God even with the Bible? No! We STILL see Him as through a dark glass. Reading about Him, is not the same as seeing Him. We will only know Him as He knows us now, when we see Him FACE TO FACE. That conclusion is written by Paul, not reasoned out by unbelieving...