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Paul was taught by Jesus. I sincerely hope your going to tie this all together....:rolleyes:

Men wear funny hats. Sinful men harbor pediphiles. Sinful men hoard money. It is your OPINION that The Church has "been wrong as often as right" AND with that opinion from you it ONCE AGAIN proves my point; others are only right if you say they are right....Maybe someday you will figure out your...

I have never said I was right. I have always said The Church is right. Scripture teaches opposite of what you believe. If you think that "no such church exists" then what do we do with 1 Timothy 3:15? Pretend it was never written? What does "the pillar and ground of the truth" mean to you...

There is your dilemma and clear evidence that your theory is not biblical. Scripture doesn't say I go to my church and you go to your church for the answer. It says go to The Church. Your interpretation needs tweaking. Maybe someday you will figure out your interpretation is wrong. After all...

Yup, that's what we do here. Debate various interpretations of Scripture. How does hearing the interpretations of others help you understand that your interpretation is correct??? When someone agrees with you that makes you and them correct....that is until they change their mind and don't...

Thank you. You have articulated your position very well. Whether one follows/accepts a group of men and their teaching (interpretation of Scripture) or you follow your own interpretation of Scripture you are still following a man! Mary

HI JB, Ummmm....I don't get your rational on how me being confident that I have found The Church spoken of in Scripture = forcing my will upon you. That makes no sense to me. I agree with you that "2 opposing views will only interpret the scripture 2 different ways". That is why we have...

I never suggested and Scripture never suggest that anything will be forced upon others. Scripture makes it clear The Church has authority (refer to the passages I mentioned earlier) ant that there are false teachers and false doctrines. If by your own free will you follow a false teacher who...

If I successfully defend myself, my family or my property with a sword or a gun it had the same effect. If I kill someone with a sword or a gun while defending myself they are still dead. Soooooo I am having trouble seeing the difference. Mary

Thanks Renniks. Soooo now you have me confused. You initially stated that Catholics take verses out of context. Now you are saying (in general) anyone can take Scripture out of context, even you, and when you realize that you were wrong you change your mind. Soooooo why do you feel...

One of the pastors from your church or my church?

Ah ha....I see what your saying. Thank you. The Apostles were individuals however they made a group decision on what was binding upon all Christians at the Council of Jerusalem (Acts 15:6-20). Once again: Would you like to share verses that teach opposite (of authority)? Patient Mary

Hi Stuart, The sword was the main weapon of defense when that was written. The sword has become the gun. The point of the passage is about defending one self. That hasn't changed whether it be with a sword or gun. I get it. Your anti-gun! Dually noted! Mary

Good Morning JB, A group interprets Scripture = individual opinion??? I don't understand that analogy.....:( It is Scripture that gives one group authority over another: Romans 13:1, Hebrews 13:17, Acts 15:6-20, 1 Timothy 5:17, 2 Thess. 3:14, Matthew 23:3 Would you like to share verses that...

Thanks Renniks. So the Church is a "Body of believers". That is a pretty generic description of His Church and it makes sense....I can agree with you on that. If I feel you have sinned against me Renniks and you won't acknowledge that sin when I speak to you about it so I go get @BreadOfLife...

Thank you Renniks. You addressed the taken out of context portion of that sentence and I appreciate that. You specifically said in that sentence that Catholics take scripture out of context. I realize you don't just mean Catholics when you say that. :cool: What you really mean is anybody that...

Good Morning Jaybird, Scripture is not left up to ones individual opinion. Scripture is truth and anyone that teaches opposite of that truth is a false teacher. Anyone who follows those false teachers are following a myth or fable (2 Timothy 4:3-4). To me @Alvertsky the real question is: Are...

Hi Backlit, You are right. The Church (The Catholic Church) "is founded on tradition". One of our first Church leaders, Paul, who had authority in the church at that time told the Thessalonians and Colossians to "hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or...

Hi Renniks, Can you better explain the part in blue? The reason I am asking you to explain it is because there are some Protestants that agree with Catholics on many verses. There are also verses that the Protestants disagree with other Protestants and Catholics which in effect gives us 3...

Sweet......Which One is it?