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  1. Wrangler

    Jesus Followed Satan OR Satan Had Physical Power Over Jesus?

    Same question about physically having power over us. If fallen angels can show us visions, why don't they do it all the time?
  2. Wrangler

    Praising, thanking God for a Trump win!

    What is your solution to the problems that come through the border?
  3. Wrangler

    Jesus Followed Satan OR Satan Had Physical Power Over Jesus?

    Sounds like you are fundamentally denying Scripture, which categorically, explicitly states that the devil tempted Jesus. To say Jesus was human, like us, yet not tempted is a contradiction. Inspiring beyond compare to know the man was tempted but due to his unshakable faith in God, did not...
  4. Wrangler

    Jesus Followed Satan OR Satan Had Physical Power Over Jesus?

    I don't know what you are asking. VR-quality vision; what is that?
  5. Wrangler

    Praising, thanking God for a Trump win!

    The day before the election he explained to the people at his last rally that that would be his last rally. He said he did just over 900 rallies (over the 3 elections cycles). People are often jealous of the rich, supposing wealth is merely inherited from generation to generation. While it is...
  6. Wrangler

    Harvard professors argue that America needs a 'militant democracy' to stop Trump

    Huh? His agenda is God’s agenda. You shall not murder. Do not move the ancient boundary stone. The workers cry out for you have stolen their wages.
  7. Wrangler

    Harvard professors argue that America needs a 'militant democracy' to stop Trump

    There was nothing ‘perceived’ about it! The Crusades were a reaction to centuries of Islamic Jihad against Christian Europe, including the city Christ was crucified in.
  8. Wrangler

    Harvard professors argue that America needs a 'militant democracy' to stop Trump

    The real authoritarian emerges. Limit the power of those that you disagree with once you leave power. How about if Republicans do the same? Elections have consequences. Trump won a massive mandate from the people, the source of all political power. He’s going to implement his agenda. Packing...
  9. Wrangler

    Jesus Followed Satan OR Satan Had Physical Power Over Jesus?

    Why are you referencing Matthew 4 rather than Luke 4?
  10. Wrangler

    Jesus Followed Satan OR Satan Had Physical Power Over Jesus?

    No, I did not vote yet. Still pondering the various posts. As far as nothing to come to terms with, I realize I did not post the verses. Worse, I quoted the wrong one. I corrected the OP to refer to Luke 4:5 while leaving 4:9. 5 Then the devil took (led) him up and revealed to him all the...
  11. Wrangler

    Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

    I bet smart feminists could come up with a standard favorable to the man, such as no means no. What is the legal standard of sexual harassment? Unwanted behavior by the woman AS DETERMINED BY THE MAN would be legally violating the standard of compassion. Sound good?
  12. Wrangler

    Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

    So that makes it right? There remain legal distinctions as pointed out in the vid. Finally, you are the one who argued vehemently that the man should pay on dates (only you shrouded this in ‘the one who asks for a date).
  13. Wrangler

    Jesus Followed Satan OR Satan Had Physical Power Over Jesus?

    This is THE frame of reference to examine the verses from the OP! Thanks for the post.
  14. Wrangler

    Jesus Followed Satan OR Satan Had Physical Power Over Jesus?

    Welcome @RootedWithGod to the forums. Although you didn’t answer my question, it was a good answer. sml If we read into the text as @Stumpmaster wrote that Jesus let himself be tempted and only in that limited context was led by the devil to the heights, it may give us some comfort. However...
  15. Wrangler

    Jesus Followed Satan OR Satan Had Physical Power Over Jesus?

    Thank you. I like to provoke thought. While I totally agree with this, the verses referenced in the OP state otherwise. How do you reconcile this?
  16. Wrangler

    Jesus Followed Satan OR Satan Had Physical Power Over Jesus?

    That’s simply not how the text reads. I understand you not wanting to come to terms with it.
  17. Wrangler

    Jesus Followed Satan OR Satan Had Physical Power Over Jesus?

    I'm doing no such thing. If you believe this is true, prove it. Show the Biblical content you are reading into this Scripture as I am directly quoting Scripture.
  18. Wrangler

    Jesus Followed Satan OR Satan Had Physical Power Over Jesus?

    I already provided it. Did you ever read Luke? Chapter 1:1-4 are the verses you seek IF evidence is dispositional. By contrast, you assert ch 4 is figurative with no evidence.
  19. Wrangler

    Jesus Followed Satan OR Satan Had Physical Power Over Jesus?

    The Gospel of Luke is a carefully studied work of historical fact. It may quote Christ’s figurative statements but not in Chapter 4.