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Have you read @GracePeace posts? He definalty believes it I have been discussing those who claim we keep saved by works, vs those who teach works are a result of salvation Not OSAS.. So lets discuss works. works used to stay saved vs works due to being saved one is required works, while...

OSAS is a misnomer. Most people argue against calvinism, since they think it is a calvinist term I prefer eternal security Is our faith in christ, or how good we are.

James What does it prophit a person if the CLAIM to have faith but has no works. Can that faith save them? If you think heaters of the word and not doers are saved. Then you are already off to a bad start Already did it That’s what you appear to be oreaching lol you appear to be saying it...

I am not. The people in vs 10 have already been saved by grace through faith minus works Vs 10 is a result of vs 8-9 That’s not the point of our discussion So are you saying their continued salvation is dependent on it? Let’s get to the point ok? I do not think so. But you appear to be...

lol. Is this what you think? You do not know us at all

No they were not. Because like you they thought their works are what saved them. That’s why instead of falling on their faces they tried to approach god by all their great works No they would not be Although the body is dead because of sin the spirit is alive because of righteousness (gods...

Amen the world will reject us, because they hate us

You have to be saved first. If your still dead in sin nothing else matters You deny the purpose of the cross (to save you from th wage of sin) and Try to get to the end (holiness) first. Your going at it backwards.

The word sin means to miss the mark anytime you do anything of the flesh you miss the mark John said if we (he included himself) we decieve ourselves i will not be decieved to think I have no sin It also says there is no truth in us if we claim we have no sin. so will you be decieved with...

Nothing her shows you have an understanding of what saves. what good is t to be saved here on earth if we will be seperated from God for eternity

I did not ask you this I asked if you still sin He has all my sin It does not mean I am so decieved I think I no longer sin If you want to be decieved feel free

What I understand is you are deflecting Whatever If you think you are sinless you are deceived. And since you refuse to answer. I must assume I am correct in what you think So good luck in your self righteousness

You give us to much credit Your god has no power and can not even keep his own justice Why do you reject the meaning of the cross?

This is what you call deflection brother I asked a question a yea or not question Do you still sin yes or now If you say yes. We agree If you say no. John says you are deceived So I will move on unless you are willing to answer

The wage of sin is death How can you be made alive when the wage is death unless that wage is paid? God can’t just forgive. Being the perfect judge. His justice demands a payment Gods love can not overrule his justice. But it can make a way That’s why I’m love he came to die

It’s amazing how inept some people are at understanding what others say

Dude You did not answer my question Yes I know God made jesus to be sin for us I asked you if you sinned I did not ask you if God sees us as if we did nto sin Can you please answer my question? Do you think you have zero sin, You have not sinned even once since you were born again Are you...

You did not answer my question bro Can you try again? Are you saying you no longer sin. Ie. you never mess up even a little?

Well good thing these people are not saved. Because they have failed to repent But it is dangerous to go 180 degrees out only because you have to draw a line. To reject the atonement of the cross is to reject the cross period This is where you are wrong. If Jesus did not die we would still be...

It’s one thing to say God sees no sin in us It’s a different thing to say we do not sin Anyone who thinks they no longer sin is decieved. Those are the apostle John’s words not mine