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  1. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    Taking that into consideration that you have gotten your beliefs from the worst possible sources....it will probably be entertaining to see what you believe!!!
  2. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    LOL Yep I laugh in your general direction LOL
  3. Grailhunter

    Jesus was not a Jew?

    WOW This is a pretty wild thread. So I might as well throw some overall facts into the mix 1. In the conversation…. was Christ a Jew….Joseph is irrelevant, because he is not his father. 2. For those that cannot stand the idea that Yahweh had sex with Miriam….Christ is not the actual Son of...
  4. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    It is a known misunderstanding.
  5. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    Did not say that Satan ruled the underworld. Revelation 12:7-9 is the war between them in the future, not when they were initially cast out of heaven.
  6. Grailhunter

    Salvation Is Secure

    John Calvin has twisted your mind. You could not be more wrong if you tried with both hands. Christ's gift to us is salvation, but if you do not choose to have faith in Him, salvation is not an option for you. Now the topic of faith and what it is, is another discussion.
  7. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    I am big on church. You were talking about different things people believe
  8. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    That is what makes up 30,000 Protestant denominations and thousand more non-denominational churches.
  9. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    With reference to............... no spiritual things or miracles happening today......what is the point of your post?
  10. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    I have heard of this belief. Particularly with Cessationists....which believe no spiritual things or miracle occur outside of the biblical period....But I do not agree with either.
  11. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    This is wrong too. Actual linguistics do not translate Hades to Hell or grave. Hades was a Greco-Roman god the presided over an underworld prison also called Hades....it was the closest Greek word available so Christian writers used it, because there was no word in the Hebrew or Greek for a...
  12. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    Correction the Book of Job mentions Satan....in fact it is the Book where Satan is actually and mostly mentioned in the Old Testament. In Job he is not identified as a demon. At that point he is welcome in the Holy Court of God...reading as it is, it was a normal occurrence for him to appear...
  13. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    First off you are quoting an Old Testament scripture....God never threatened the Jews with Hell nor offered them salvation that lead to Heaven. The Jews in the Old Testament did not believe in a Hell or a devil and still to this day do not believe in a Hell or a devil. There ultimate...
  14. Grailhunter

    Salvation Is Secure

    I am Kool with you not being a Calvinist, you just believe like Calvinists....is there a difference? All that Christ did for us gave us a reason for faith.....Still if it is not our choice, it is not our faith and is no credit to us or means anything to Him. It goes back to programming...
  15. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    Agreed, drugs are of the devil and free-will is our gift from God.
  16. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    You might try that with a little pot and some old reels of Woodstock.
  17. Grailhunter

    Salvation Is Secure

    That is the point. Faith requires free-will. Robots do not have free-will. You can't give faith. According to John Calvin a robot is commanded to believe. A test would require free-will. The Christians on this forum have had to struggle a lot against the satanic teachings of John Calvin...
  18. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    Come on guys I have already explained this….check it out. They cannot throw Hades in the lake of fire because he is a Greco-Roman god. LOL The New Testament writers were grasping for words to define Hell because there was no word that represents Hell in the Hebrew or Greek or Aramaic. The word...
  19. Grailhunter

    The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

    @Jack There is a scripture that says Hades had all the souls dumped out, and then it is thrown away and done away with- so I believe that already happened but anyway, I love your enthusiasm I am not gonna entertain it anymore. Jack you are going to have to give us that scripture please.