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Evidently, you are looking for an answer that you want hear, and not what the body of NT scripture speaks of, wherein I placed quotation marks to reference in the KJV. So in essence, you are not ignoring me, but rather NT scripture.

1 Timothy 3[15] But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. [16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified...

I provided 1 Peter 2:9. If you don't comprehend the message of it, then ask God for His wisdom, according to Isaiah 55:8-9 and John 16:13. As for all else of my words, I speak with scripture. Surely you can recognize the KJV bible words, that I "peppered" within my speech.

^ correction: John 16:13

For all of your words to me, i do appreciate it. Thanks. It gives me a good understanding of your stand, and it helps to address my stand, of which I hope to keep simple and short. Why was Jesus slain as "the Lamb of God" BEFORE the foundation of the world. Iows, what did God the Father and God...

Yes, amen! You are seeking to know/learn HIS thoughts and ways "by His Spirit", and not so much everyone elses. Isaiah 55:8-9, Zechariah 4:6, John 16:13.

1 Peter 2[9] But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: [10] Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not...

If I may interject, the "church" is not any one denomination, nor is it a building with a name over the door. Jesus said in KJV- Matthew 18[20] For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. However, there are MANY that do attend and hold positions...

^ Therefore, "Ye MUST BE born again" John 3:3-8

God spoke through Zechariah about such an issue for the interpretation of His meaning, in His use of our language(s). He placed it among two other factions that are directly in conflict with it, and are known by Him as being ineffective and undesireable for our undertanding of Him. We can read...

Thanks for your input "Amigo" , but I was asking "CadyandZoe" because she was contesting my recent post.

Were you physically born into this world already believing in Jesus as your Savior, from day one?? No, you weren't. No one is! So, what was it that caused you to believe in Jesus? What did you hear or see, that led you to Him?

Then you miscontruing the meaning of what Paul spoke in Romans 9:11...that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth.

Jacob heard the "call" of God, and proved to God that he would do anything to obtain the birthright that was destined to Esau, who for the sake of some food, despised it. We also have the opportunity for a "birthright", to be "born again" in/by the Holy Spirit . We either answer is calling, or...

I am not contesting "marks" comments or the scripture. I was only caring about the heart of the matter of what God's will is, and then comparing it with additional NT scripture. There are MANY who have invited themselves to the KoG, but only those who are called by God Himself, and have...

Being called and elected by God requires us to do one of two things: answer His call or neglect and despise it. You may be at an impasse, but I am not. God does not over rule or over run our free will of being, just because He "chooses". He can only choose those who are willing to walk in Him...

^ Now, how does 1 Peter 2:2-21, (Verse 10) tie in with Esau and Jacob?Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: Ans. When one walks and lives in the Holy Spirit and not their flesh, the character/fruit...

Did God hate Esau for no reason, but then love Jacob for no reason also? The truth is there was a reason for God's determination about the two. Esau (being the firstborn) "despised" his inherited birthright, and therefore Esau became unelectable, and was rejected by God. Jacob (being the...

Marks, please do not be offended. I am not speaking to you only here. There is an audience that is reading our words and the biblical concepts that make up our faith. I for one dwelled in biblical error for a long time, until I became so confused, that I literally almost tossed my faith, but...

Let's think more in line of God's foreknowledge about who and how Esau and Jacob would be, according to their own free will. Right out of the gate, before there was any separation between Esau and Jacob, God knew beforehand, that Esau would trade off his birthright for food, thereby revealing...