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so you believe you can go from being righteous to being unrighteous. Sad. Well I can't speak to your hypothetical faith without works strawman you love to beat on, but I teach thae bible. Jesus saves me forever apart from any works. Jesus has become my righteousness, because He bvecame all...

Salvation and justification are two different topics.

knowledege is information. Faith is putting trust in that information. and the bible clearly informs us that once one is born again- they are secure forever.

Adam and Eve did ot comit an innocent mistake- they willfully and with full knowledge disobeyed God. Humans since then have a different scenario to deal with, so what Adam and eve faced is not germaine to us.

And as John wrote: 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. Just because someone acts like a Christian, does not mean...

Well there is debate about whether the rocky ground are saved or not. But Hebrews 6 is not about saved at all, but people who have heard, tasted and have been illuminated. To make the story short, it is about Jews who were taught that teh Levitical sarificial system could not take sin away.

What you write is personal opinion and not Scripture. Scripture contradicts that. Gods Word speaks of people who lived religiously but God never knew them (MAtt. 7) and people who once fellowshipped but left for they never were saved( 1 JOn 5) but never speaks of someone being born again...

I agree with all this. but truth is truth and as the followers of Jesus as is commanded in Jude we are to earnestly contend for the truth. Wrong beliefs always produce wrong results in a persons life. If a person is truly Born Again, then they are saved forever no matter how good or bad...

That is always fine, but when you are on a thread and then post a Scripture without it pertaining to the topic, you should say so. Otherwise people will wonder what you are trying to convey.

Once saved always saved is the biblical truth! Sin is no longer the issue. Once a person has accepted Christ--all of their sins have been removed. If a person could lose thier salvation because of sin (and loss of faith is a sin), then Jesus did not die for all the sins of a person.

I know and have taught on this parable many many times. what are you trying to get at?

And I have agreed with this, so why do you keep bringing it up? I pray and do so what is your issue?

And I know th eLord gives understanding. so why should I accept what yo0u say is from the Lord and not what I have learned or those who have shepherded me over the years?

Not sure what is the story. I cannot know the intnent of why people start a thread unless they declare it.

Do you mean if one can lose their salvation? That is not possible according to the Word of God.

God existed for eternity before He created the material universe. He does not need the material heavens for a habitation.

So why are you being so judgmental? Are you trying to live up to that picture of the crotchety old man you chose as an avatar? Israel did live in all the land, but only for a time, they have not possessed all the land as a perpetual habitation as the covenant god made. so that possession is...

Just one problem here. China is a permanent member of the UN Security council and has veto power over anything that may come to a vote against them.

Discipleship is different fro mbeing saved. It is something that comes after one is saved. We are all called to discipleship and one must consider the cost- for it requires all. If one fails in discipleship or only goes so far and then stops, that doesn't mean they have lost their salvation...

The Bible says it will not be. Much of the surface of the earth will be devastated by the tribulation. when Jesus comes, after He judges the nations, He will restore most of the surface to an Eden like state for the 1,000 year kingdom. It is after this kingdom that God destroys the current...