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  1. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Great, so since the NT directs you to the OT for authoritative teaching on how Christianity works (2 Timothy 3:15), you should do that--exactly as I'm saying you should do, in accordance with Paul's own explicit practice (1 Corinthians 9, 10, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,).
  2. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    1) The majority of the NT was written by Paul. You realize Paul was a master of the OT and his doctrines were always "as it is written". So was Paul erring? LOL 2) The Holy Spirit inspired the OT Scriptures, and Peter calls them a "lamp" (which gives light) 2 Peter 1:19 which is like Scripture...
  3. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    2 Corinthians 13 5Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you fail to meet the test! This is why Paul said that Christ had to be formed in the Galatians "again" Galatians...
  4. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Right, because otherwise what happened to them will happen to us--just as they fell under wrath and did not inherit the promise so also we will fall under wrath and not inherit the promise.
  5. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    I just read the Bible and believe it. It says they began by the Spirit and then departed from the truth--Jesus being the Truth, then, they departed from Him.
  6. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    1) Paul doesn't write epistles to lost Jews and Gentiles, he writes to churches--he was addressing Jewish and Gentile Christians in the Roman Church. 2) The text is explicit : eternal life will be repaid at the judgment in return for good works. This is the same doctrine as in Galatians 6:6-10...
  7. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Irrelevant.
  8. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    That is precisely what Scripture teaches Romans 2 6He will render to each one according to his works: 7to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8but for those who are self-seekinga and do not obey the truth, but obey...
  9. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    They departed from God (Galatians 1:6), so, yes, separated from the love of God THAT IS IN CHRIST because they DEPARTED FROM CHRIST where God's love is located.
  10. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    1) Do those things which happened to them have bearing on Christians? 1 Corinthians 10 6Now these things took place as examples for us... 11Now these things happened to them as an example, but they were written down for our instruction, on whom the end of the ages has come. 2) You didn't even...
  11. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    1) I have not personally asked God very much about that verse, but I do admit that if I had not been faced with seemingly impossible-to-reconcile verses already so many times, and been helped by God, I would falter at it because it really seems to teach that we were picked for salvation before...
  12. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    You seem to think "salvation" is the "last word"--it's not. According to Apostolic doctrine (1 Corinthians 10), the Jews were "saved" from slavery in Egypt, and they were "baptized" into Moses, but they still fell under God's wrath in the wilderness and never inherited the Promise (the land of...
  13. GracePeace

    The Galatian Suppositions

    Yeah, actually, you'd better have good works on the Day of Judgment Matthew 22 10And those servants went out into the roads and gathered all whom they found, both bad and good. So the wedding hall was filled with guests. 11“But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who...
  14. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    I guess your "flowery" words are supposed to mean something and help someone? The OT is a "type" and "shadow" which informs us as to how the NT works--fulfilling precisely the function which you deny it does. The OT was inspired by the Spirit of God, written to Christians, and illuminates the NT.
  15. GracePeace

    The Galatian Suppositions

    This cut-and-paste of yours did not address the Scripture. Prove I've gone wrong : Romans 2 6He will render to each one according to his works: 7to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8but for those who are self-seekinga and...
  16. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    So Paul was mistaken : 1 Corinthians 9 8Do I say these things on human authority? Does not the Law say the same? 9For it is written in the Law of Moses, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain.” Is it for oxen that God is concerned? 10Does he not certainly speak for our sake...
  17. GracePeace

    The Galatian Suppositions

    So glad someone has some common sense! LOL It seems it takes a PhD in theology to miss what is apparent. :D
  18. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    1 Corinthians 10 6Now these things took place as examples for us... 11Now these things happened to them as an example, but they were written down for our instruction, on whom the end of the ages has come. These things that happened to them under the OT correspond to partakers of the NT. 1...
  19. GracePeace

    Once Saved Always Saved

    1) "Hans" : it was just a quote from a movie LOL 2) I haven't been here before. 3) My efforts are to believe the Bible, not any preacher--that's why I don't believe in "eternal security".
  20. GracePeace

    The Galatian Suppositions

    Romans 2:6-16 says there is a day of judgment coming at which time only doers of the Law will be justified and repaid with eternal life. Paul then cites believing Gentiles as examples of men who will be justified in response to their being doers of the Law (by means of the Spirit writing the Law...